Balta1701

Wait I thought there was a mercy rule on position players pitching?

you're not allowed to hit Menechino in the air. Only on the ground the other way.

McGuire is on pace for a 1 WAR season almost entirely due to his defense. Other teams will always trade scraps to cover their backup catcher role if they need one. I’d guess he could be traded away for some scraps somewhere.

Mumbles something about poor tasting pollock and goes to bed.

If the ump has a big zone and calls strikes just out of the zone for both teams, but one team swings at those pitches and the other doesn’t, the ump score will say that he favored the more discerning team, when in that case he was even and one team controlled their swings better.

Worth noting though - if one team swings at everything just out of the zone and the other doesn’t, that will strongly affect that score.

If that was the only issue you could see solving it, but defense and offense and inconsistent starters are all on top of that.

If the white Sox strike out 7 times, hit no homers, and have a .300 BABIP, that is an average game for them.

I mean the obvious issue is that even while healthy there’s 2 reliable relievers out there. Was Lopez unavailable?

I think the explanation in Orlando is that a bunch of people yelled someone has a gun and they triggered a rush of a hundred thousand people because that sounds so normal these days. Whether it’s a prank or a mistake, this can easily kill people too. There were supposedly some shots somewhere in Philly.

So wait who added without Tony to the thread title and how did they know about this part?

Hold them to one and then score 2, or play the 11th.

I haven't posted in the whole holiday weekend and am sitting in a hotel room in New York City and just have to say WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

What is the most combined strikeouts in a game this year?

Josh Harrison did have an .850 OPS in June.

Although they didn't nail everyone, that #1 ranked system led to a world series win 5 years later and one of the top 5 franchise win totals of that decade. They turned out pretty accurate. The #1 ranked system in 2017 for the White Sox turned into playoff appearances in 20/21 and a division title.

Did you just include Sean Manaea in the list of Padres long term contracts? Who is signed to a 1 year $9 million deal? Or Pomeranz who has $15 million remaining through this and next year combined - basically Kelly money except he’s not terrible?

I think all of us would understand that if he was still hitting the ball very hard, but the drop offs in exit velocity don’t work with a guy who swings and misses a lot.

I don’t know who is teaching what, but there’s definitely a “hit the ball on the ground and bloop it the other way” result that is permeating this organization, and the organization has been at the bottom of the league in launch angle since that stat was first tracked. They may not be teaching it deliberately but the result is coming through with basically all their players, that isn’t a coincidence.

All right here goes. Assume there's no huge run in the next month, what does this retool look like? Guys who would need to be traded this year: Gravemann, Lopez, Cueto. All 3 are overplaying their contract. All 3 should bring legitimate returns. Graveman will be one of the top reliever options on the market. Cueto should be an extremely interesting option for teams that need pitching but who don't have money to spend, frankly he seems like a really interesting fit for the Rays. Guys who could be moved but it's more Controversial: Abreu, Anderson. In both cases it might be up to them - does Abreu want to play for a contender for the rest of the year? The Cubs got a guy who is currently in their top 10 prospects for Rizzo in a comparable deal, several years away but talented. There are several teams who could legitimately use Abreu right now - Houston, Boston, Minnesota could use 1b help, San Francisco, Atlanta, Cleveland, the Mets, Brewers, even the Dodgers could use DH help. Unless Anderson asks out, he's not likely to go anywhere, but he would have serious trade interest. Guys you might be able to move to clear minor contracts: Engel, Pollock - if healthy. Might have to send along some money to move Pollock, but you could probably save a few million on his contract if you did. Reese McGuire: He's far pre-arbitration and on pace for a 1 WAR backup season thanks to his defense. Someone will need a backup catcher if you want to move him, but the White Sox could continue using him as well. Guys who have substantial trade value, but who are under control for years, and who you hope will be even better or more valuable next year: Kopech, Cease, Robert, Vaughn, Burger. There is little reason to move any of these guys as you're not likely to make the team better or cheaper by doing so, at least not this year. The big pile of guys, guys who don't have much trade value because of either poor performance, injury, or pretty big contracts, who you might be able to move some of them, but all of them might play themselves into more value if you hold onto them: Moncada, Eloy, Giolito, Lynn, Hendriks, Sheets, Bummer. Guys who are currently unmovable and who are unlikely to be any time soon: Leury, Harrison, Grandal, Kelly. Space fillers: Haseley, Foster, Ruiz, Lambert, Banks, Zavala. If they still aren't close, then moving the main 3 pitchers, asking Abreu what he wants, and seeing if you can save some money on Pollock or Engel are the tasks for this year. Hopefully that helps restock some and maybe finds a useful piece for next year. The issue is all the guys you really don't want to move or can't move. Right now, the White Sox have 2 choices next year. They have a whole lot of money on the books next year, and the same basic needs as this year, bullpen, LH bat, pitching help, bench. They could very well spend another $180 million next year and be in a comparable situation if some people struggle or get hurt. Alternatively, they could well be under orders to cut salary, in which case moving someone out of the expensive group (Moncada, Lynn, Hendriks) could be required. The time to decide that would be the offseason. Every position that could be filled internally would be helpful. Get some useful pieces in the trades you have to make. Try to see what catching options you have by making sure to play Zavala some. Then, bring up Yolbert, see if he has any shot at being a utility guy for next year. If Sosa is plausibly ready, get him back up too. Give Martin a chance to replace Cueto, give Lambert a chance to see if he can be a rosterable reliever. Harrison can readily be cut in this situation, and if the manager refuses to play the youth, start cutting people. Then in the offseason, you have a choice between trying to continue selling guys, especially if you need to cut payroll, and running it back and hoping some staff changes make a difference. Some guys are likely to play themselves into more value in the 2nd half, this will be part of the story, but it's one we can't predict right now.

Well there’s plenty of reason for impatience. First of all, this is Moncada’s 6th big league season not counting his Boston time. 4th for Eloy, 3rd for Robert. Kopech made his big league debut 4 years ago. Many guys hit their athletic and performance peaks at 26 these days. These guys aren’t babies, Vaughn excluded. Coming into the year, the White Sox had a roster that was in the top 10 of oldest in the league. This roster is old enough that it was easy to project then being hurt a lot this year. But there are also other key issues. Giolito is a free agent next season. Abreu this season. Kopech and Cease both hit arbitration next year so their salaries go up. With the sheer number of holes - they either can’t afford many busts or they need a steadier supply of guys from the minors taking roles and contributing, and they aren’t getting it.