NCsoxfan

No wonder it seems like his head hasn’t been in the game this year - can only think with one head at a time

Take a flipping pitch one time Luis

How is Sheets still playing in the big leagues?

Neither player acts like they care. Collect a big check and act lazy

He’s not, fair point. But it’s a convenient time to retool and could save his job. He needs to start walking around fast and frustrated in the office like George Costanza. People in the organization will start to believe he’s being productive.

It’s a blessing in disguise for Hahn. It gives him an out without having to admit the team he constructed is flawed. Even healthy it’s not good enough to win a World Series. So why not use this clusterbuck of a season to retool?

This team reminds me a lot of the 2003 team. A lot of big names that were unable to produce in aggregate. We’d string together a ton of hits but often strand a dozen runners.

Does anyone else think Vaughn looks like Karkovice with a helmet on?

In the words of Estelle Harris (RIP!), “we walk in and McGuire is treating his body like it’s an amusement park”

We would regret that for years

First time in a long while that a white sox trade has been universally praised by our fan base.

Be careful, you’ll get a hateful private message. You know Hahn and son read these boards, right?

Tongue in cheek

90 wins and a first round playoff loss.

Maybe Hahn’s multiple championships quote meant multiple playoff appearances

Buy high sell low white sox. Kimbrel and Madrigal will both end up having great seasons.

Any chance we sign Nick C?

I’m hoping we can sign some FAs that will help out in October instead of low contact (high K) guys who disappear. Easier said than done, but still…

I respect that point of view but I think exactly the opposite. When you have those players you don’t need another big fish, you need smart signings which help compliment the “team”. Any idiot can identify what free agents are the best or trade Chris Sale and identify which prospects to ask for…it’s much tougher to make the signings which are less obvious and that’s what separates championship teams (and front offices) from the rest!

See, sometimes spreading the same amount of $ across a few players is better than breaking the bank on someone like Semien. Not a guarantee either way, but different ways to attack things.

There’s decent quality people such as Chris Taylor, Alex Wood, Schwarber, Alex Cobb, Jose Iglesias, Pineda, Bundy, Tepera, Villar, Chafin…

$10mil a year FAs are now “C & D” players that we have no chance of being successful with? Even if we landed a Semien or Seager it would’ve been bigger holes elsewhere.

Everyone needs to chill. We have a great team as is. I truly believe there will be great deals to be have in the $5-10mil a year range. They might not be the headline deals but can end up yielding better results.

It’s fine if you believe he puts us over the top. I don’t. Not only is he not what this club needs (down the priority list), I’m not convinced he produces like you think he will. That’s my 2c, you have yours, we’ll see how it shakes out.

You can try to walk back your smart a comment that didn’t address my point, but the reality is chasing the top free agents each off season isn’t typically a good strategy. There’s ways of more prudently spending the same amount of dollars and getting a better bang for your buck. A high payroll doesn’t tell you the composition of the contracts (you of course know this but were intentionally being disingenuous). The Semien deal and many others leave the signing team with little/no upside optionality. Even if they perform they’re merely justifying the contract. Winning teams have some players outperforming their contracts. So no I’m not upset at all about Semien, and I’d prefer signings with upside optionality.