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Hahn is like a terrified 16 year old driving on the autobahn. He’s over matched compared to LAD, HOU, BOS, NYY, etc. He doesn’t have the payroll, the scouting, the analytics, the prospects, or the acumen to win high stakes trades/free agency. Maybe not all of it is his fault, but that’s the reality of the situation.

would anyone make sense for us? Or just meh?

I honestly think Hahn doesn’t know what to do.

Forkball pitcher!

Am I crazy to think Yoshida would’ve looked good for us in RF? A LH who never strikes out? Never mind, that’s not something the Sox would ever be interested in.

“Singles win championships”

I keep saying this but we should try to trade for Eguy Rosario to fill the 2B hole

We’re all setting ourselves up for disappointment. Nobody’s going to be happy at the end of the offseason because Hahn can’t/won’t/doesn’t know how to make the right moves.

Telling Hahn to wake up is futile. All the best organizations are armed with common sense, lots of $, and a ton of PhDs. White Sox have “hunches”, no real ability to spend, and a kid with an associates degree from COD playing with Microsoft Excel.

It was still the right decision at the time. You can argue with the players we received but not the decision imo

Disagree. If brings you players you can’t get otherwise, and you solve closer a different way it can make sense. It’s clear we’ve misallocated resources the last few years. This could be an opportunity to right the ship.

Perhaps now an opportunity for us to trade for Eguy Rosario. I think he’d be a great fit at 2B.

Gleyber Torres I kept trying to play with a deal that would get Torres to the Chicago White Sox in a larger exchange including Lucas Giolito, who gets traded elsewhere below. I just couldn't find a match that quite worked and realized I was trying too hard, probably because I relished the idea of Torres teaming up with fellow ex-Cubs prospects Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease on the South Side. That's a good narrative but not a good foundation for a trade. I'm trading Giolito for the next player on our list, Brandon Lowe, so I'm going to focus my commentary here on the White Sox. Giolito is a good pitcher and a team leader in the White Sox clubhouse, a strong bounce-back candidate after a lackluster 2022 campaign and somebody Chicago should think seriously about extending. Without that extension, though, Giolito will be a free agent after next season, which is why he's on trade candidate lists in the first place. If the White Sox were to deal Giolito and it wasn't part of a larger deal with the Rays that brought back a starter, they'd have to pivot to filling out a base rotation that includes Michael Kopech, Dylan Cease, Lance Lynn and recently signed Mike Clevinger. If they were willing to pay Clevinger $12 million on a one-year, make-good deal, then surely they'd be able to find someone comparable to fill in his slot for a season for the $10 or $11 million Giolito is likely to receive for 2023 via the arbitration system. One free agent option that leaps to mind is former White Sox starter and current free agent Jose Quintana. Meanwhile, I love the fit for Lowe, provided his defense holds up in a post-shift world at the keystone and that he's healthy after an injury-riddled 2022 season. He would add another lefty bat to balance a White Sox lineup that still figures to tilt toward righty hitters. He adds power to a team that struggled to hit the long ball consistently in 2022. While Lowe is generally a low-average hitter, the ban of extreme shifts could help out the results on his pull-oriented swing. And, more than anything, the White Sox simply need a second baseman. Badly.

Today ESPN proposing Giolito to TB for Brandon Lowe (sorry if this is posted elsewhere)

Wait this thread has nothing to do with Leury, Sheets, Yoan, and Yas?

It’s not a matter of if people think he will do well. It’s only a matter of if our team should pay him 3/60 (or more since Texas has no state income tax)

Hahn better get creative and hit on some buy low candidates. No way we’re going to turn the ship around paying market value for recent performance.

I can’t see any reason we should’ve paid Jose $20mil a year for the next three seasons at his age. But man will I miss him.

He can start with getting the Dominos Pizza Tracker tied to Luis and Yoan’s iPhones

Thanks. And I think Eguy would be an interesting to look at for 2B (assuming SD would consider trading him)

Both slightly above average (using UZR and stolen bases)

Trading those three would save $35mil. Turner I’m projecting 6/180 Eguy is the Padres fifth rated prospect and can play 2b/SS/3B. Martin is a buy low LH hitter who can provide outfield flexibility. He hits RH pitching well, average power, gets on base, etc.

Trade Hendriks, TA, and Graveman. Sign Trea Turner. Trade for Sean Murphy and Eguy Rosario. Sign Clevinger Sign Dodger LH free agent Jason Martin to platoon in RF

You can’t tell me our GMs have historically tried to buy low and sell high. Your example is when we intentionally decided to rebuild (correct decision!), I don’t think that was consistent with how they’ve thought about asset management. Whenever we’ve even mildly been in contention we’ve bought high (whether paying FAs for recent performance), and dumped low. The fact that we traded stars during a rebuild doesn’t negate our general history.

This club never trades guys at peak value. We’re equivalent of a retail trader buying a stock at $100 and selling at $80. Then buying someone similar the next year for $100, rinse/repeat.