Milkman delivers

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) Only KW knows for sure, but it will be a crime if CQ is traded No knowledge of baseball economics whatsoever.

I've always wondered how Ozzie Guillen's balls taste. Anyone have any clue?

Cancer?

Does 2005 feel like an eternity ago to anyone else?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) He kept hitting him cleanup. Adam Dunn couldn't hit the side of a barn with his bat all year long, but he was hitting cleanup... 3 games out, he's hitting cleanup. Plus, remember, Ozzie quit. He was not fired. I think this has been pointed out to greg at least 3,000 times in the past 6 months. He ignores it, comes back in a couple of days, and again asks "so the manager should not play the highly-paid DH at all, you guys slay me." He'll completely ignore the idea of moving him down in the order and will just harp on the idea that he should have been benched all together.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 07:21 AM) Greg, Ozzie is an idiot. Outs are the most precious asset in a baseball game and Ozzie gave them like it was no big deal and rarely for any benefit. His decisions put our team at a huge disadvantage on a daily basis. Refusing to use even basic stats and actually being proud of not using them is proof that he's a complete moron. How can you support a manager in this day and age not be aware of splits? How can one manage a team and not realize that Will Ohman is a f***ing loogy and there's years worth of data to prove it. And on top of it all he's a complete hypocritical coward. He has this Tony Montana tough guy vibe, but the only individual he had the balls to call out was his rookie RF, who clearly not part of the problem. Yes, he did make a jab about Rios, whose lazy play was killing, but he was back in the lineup in a day or two. As for him "not quitting", where was he those last two days and why was Don Cooper managing? Ozzie was under contract next year because he b****ed so much Reinsdorf was forced to pick it up. Then the f***ing coward didn't have the dignity to honor it. Plain and simple he quit on the team. In fact, he quit on the team when he decided the best time to ask for an extension was heading into a pivotal series against Detroit. And on top of it all, he has the nerve to call his team "quitters" and then doesn't show up to the park the last two games because he had already quit to join another team. How can you deny all this? All of this is great and true, but the bold part was probably the most frustrating thing about the man. Having pride in being willfully ignorant is such a caveman concept.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) Are you suggesting that Ozzie told Kenny to acquire Iguchi, A.J., Dye, Everett, Uribe, Harris, Blum, Widger, Ozuna, Jenks, Hermanson, Politte, Cotts, Marte, Vizcaino, Shingo, El Duque, and Contreras? Did he have KW draft, develop, and/or call up Beurhle, Garland, Rowand, Crede, and McCarthy? He clearly had nothing to do with Konerko or Thomas. That leaves Podsednik, Garcia, and maybe Timo where Guillen POSSIBLY had some influence. If you want to attribute that roster to KW getting lucky that's one thing. But to even suggest that Ozzie had anything significant to do with its composition proves that you either know nothing about baseball or you just want to slob on Gullien's knob. In the future, please try to use some reason or logic in your posts or simply STFU. Yes, of course.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) I like it. Seems rather limited, though, right? I mean, unless you go back to the early days of baseball, you've got like 2 basketball teams, 4 hockey, and 1 football.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 06:46 PM) Rats The Rangers gave 'em the old White Sox-Rays treatment.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 07:06 PM) Yeah, I set it up tape the pilot since I missed it the first go around. I can't wait to watch it, hopefully tonight if I get enough work done. I like Damian Lewis (or anyone who was in Band of Brothers) a lot. Strange, I like anyone who was in Dreamcatcher a lot.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) Just watch "Homeland" already so we can talk about that instead! LOL I want to, but there's so much other stuff I'm already into. I don't think I have the time.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 04:12 PM) A lot of people seemed to be confused because of the camera movement. And it was still a cliff hanger. Jesse is standing there with a smoking gun and a dead body, Walt is being held hostage. That's a cliffhanger ending in my book. Whatever you say. There was no cliffhanger.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 04:10 PM) But what happened to Walter? They couldn't possibly know every outcome that was revealed in that first episode. If Gale dies, Walt lives. Gus would need him. Straight forward.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) For the 99% of viewers who don't read every interview about the show, it was left as a serious cliffhanger... even just not knowing what would happen to Walt regardless. That's just a problem with the average American. They have to be punched in the face to see anything. It was blatantly obvious that he killed Gale.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 01:12 PM) Season 3 had a pretty massive cliffhanger. No, it didn't. Jesse clearly shot Gale. People just couldn't believe it unless they saw it. Gilligan even said that he shot him when the rumors came up.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) It doesn't sound like much in that article is accurate. The Phils made a major push for Pence, not Quentin. CQ wasn't the guy they wanted, and for obvious reasons. And I don't think De Aza, Viciedo, or anyone we have (not much) is pushing CQ out the door as much as his contract situation, defensive incapabilities, and injury history are. In that sense, KW could say anything, even "We're going to be a veteran team in 2012" and it would still seem likely that CQ will be traded. KW's comments, if anything can be inferred, would appear to signal the end of one or both of Danks/Floyd, not Carlos. Sale as a starter is a decision that has nothing to do with MB or anyone else. They must really believe he can make it as a top-end starter to take him out of the pen where he is one of the nastiest guys in the league, and if they believe that, then they would make a spot for him no matter what. The AJ-Flowers question is all about whether they think Flowers can make it. He's a much better hitter now than he was in earlier stints, but is it enough? IMO if the Sox have any confidence in him at all as a full-time player they will eat a couple mil on AJ and send him to a contender, bringing in a veteran tutor as a backup (if Sandy is the next manager or is on the next coaching staff he could definitely help). Otherwise, AJ will get the majority of time behind the plate with Flowers as a backup and getting more work in at 1B. The Sox aren't going to make AJ sit, nor are they going to wait around an extra year to accommodate him if they feel Flowers has some kind of future as a starter. I completely agree. Even with Ozzie gone, they won't sit him. And they definitely wouldn't trade him if they don't think (rightfully) that Flowers is ready to take over full time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) I hadn't heard that before. That puts a different spin on to things. He said that he wanted to have a series that turned Mr. Chips into Scarface. QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 12:48 PM) My guess is that Walt/Jessie successfully kill Gus (or the credits will roll just as he's about to die, creating a giant cliffhanger going into the last season) and then Walt and Jessie spend the last season evading the DEA, culminating in a giant tell-all reveal between Walt and his whole family (including Hank). I'm not sure about the cliffhanger, as they don't seem to go that route on Breaking Bad. And I'm glad for that. But I don't disagree with the ending you theorize.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) Yeah but the network dies with Gus for all intensive () purposes. I don't see Mike picking it up and keeping it together. Without Gus, the lab dies, the company dies, the distribution dies, and the meth dies. I think Hank will be involved in bringing it down at the end though. The superlab would die, yes. But it might not prevent Walt from continuing to cook on his own. And since all of the major distributors in the area are gone in that situation, it could allow for Walt to become...wait for it...the Scarface character that Vince Gilligan said that he wanted to turn Walt into. In that situation, Mike and his men can be his enforcers. I doubt he would have any lingering loyalty to Gus after he's dead, not after seeing Gus kill the other employee and understanding that Mike is in this for the money. And then the final season would revolve around Hank and Walt. After all, with Gus and Jesse out of the way, Walt is the only guy left on Earth that can cook the blue stuff. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:37 AM) I can only hope the poor f*** gets some credit. It seems, if Walt is fingered, that Hank's career will go to s*** as well letting that happen right under his nose. I'm hoping that the end has Hank being justified. I definitely want to see him come out on top, and especially alive.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) Tons of scratches does not = minute, in my brain. If what constitutes as "minute" for you is anything that looks like it hasn't had an ax taken to it, then yeah, we have different definitions! I'm just saying that the scratches aren't deep (usually), but that there are often tons of them. Almost like it was gently swiped with a Brillo pad.

Detroit is Detroit. I think we've won that one. No need to hate them because they're from there. More likely, they need the pity.

Is Padilla saying that Sale moving to the rotation is dependent on Buehrle leaving?

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 11:23 PM) I personally do not have much faith in Stewart, but judging from Axelrod's minor league track record and his cup of tea this year, I think he could end up being a nice 4th starter for this team. But since we have Humber in the bullpen as insurance, if either of Axelrod or Stewart falters, I think Humber should be given a chance to prove himself once more. As far as pitching rotation depth is concerned, if we are trading Q, D1, Floyd, and Thorton, I would expect us to net a few close to major league ready starting pitching prospects back. Based on our attendance this year, I think you are right on with our cap situation this year. Getting to around $90 million means Danks and perhaps Floyd won't be back next year. What we have in house right now may be question marks, but in reality, I don't think the drop off is that big from this year. So, we should give Axelrod and Stewart the opportunity to start over Humber? That's just great.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 05:34 AM) Pssh.. look at my post on that subject. I knew it cause I saw Prior and Sale both pitch in college. Sale has very good stuff, but he isn't in Prior's neighborhood. (and that is no knock, Prior was just that good) And I will maintain my ways on saying it would be a horrible mistake if Danks is traded. (unless you absolutely can not sign him to a Buehrle type deal) He still has too much upside untapped. (and yes.. I'm his biggest fan, and I know Floyd is Jason's biggest fan) When does he plan on tapping that potential? I don't want to sit around and get nothing out of this guy simply because we think he can do better than this. He's not signing an extension. We need to get something of value for him.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 01:20 AM) I think one of Floyd/Danks is gone before next season. I'd be pretty surprised if they're both gone this winter though. My guess is that one is kept, but traded in July if we're not in a good place in the standings. And my guess is we won't be in a good place in the standings. Oy, weren't we saying this exact stuff last offseason?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) Though I will say you almost can't kill Gus, because who is left to be the antagonist at that point? If someone dies, it pretty much has to be Jesse, though that doesn't stop a failed attempt from happening against one of them. Hank or Walt, depending on your viewpoint.