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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 01:12 PM) That's great and all, and your detailed analysis was interesting, but that doesnt change the fact that for the most part this season, he has not looked all that impressive or intimidating. And if you or anyone can say that you are perfectly comfortable with him protecting a 1 run lead down the stretch or in the playoffs, you either are lieing, are unaware of what true shut down closers look like, or don't care. That's not a knock on Jenks, it's just a statement of how he has looked this year. Beautiful.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 08:45 AM) From a Yahoo story, Rule 8.06 of the Official Baseball Rules stipulates a trip to the mound begins when a manager or coach crosses the foul line and ends when he leaves the 18-foot dirt circle surrounding the pitcher’s rubber. Returning to the dirt constitutes a second trip, at which point the pitcher must be removed. Torre had been ejected earlier. Why pitching coach Rick Honeycutt didn't come out to talk to a pitcher??? I don't know. The mound is that big? 18 feet seems off.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 11:55 PM) Total agreement. Putz and Omar have far exceeded any realistic expectations anybody could've had for them. Now only if we could get rid of Pierre, Jones and Kotsay. You said it. And again, I fell asleep before the game was even near over. I'm getting old.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 10:09 PM) Good thing those don't matter for a closer. He pitches so few innings that one bad outing inflates all those stats. All I care about is 20/22

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 12:09 AM) Please tell me someone else was watching top of 9th in Dodgers/Giants game. I can honestly say I've never seen that before. Mattingly went to mound to talk to Broxton, took a step off the mound, and then took two steps back to say one more thing to him. Giants manager saw this, and told the umpires that should count as two visits. Broxton was forced to leave, and Dodgers had no one warming up. Why was Mattingly (the hitting coach) talking to Broxton on the mound?

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) No, just the inconsistency of the board. Jenks has been ragged on more than anyone who deserves to be on the team in the first place (not Kotsay, Williams, etc) yet in pure closer numbers hasn't been nearly that bad. Yeah he's making to much money and he's not the same as he once was, but the ridiculous amount of hate he has gotten is pretty f***ing pathetic. What's pathetic is his ERA...and WHIP.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 06:41 PM) I second this, Hot For Teacher still blows my mind. Don't forget Eruption. This is a tough choice, and there are quite a few "right" answers, but I have to agree with Van Halen. I get ragged on a lot by my friends because they consider Van Halen to be a hair band.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 12:02 PM) I don't think anyone here would call Jenks an elite closer. I think he is an adequate closer, and that's the only role he can play on this team. I doubt Putz would perform at quite that insane of a clip in the 9th inning exclusively. Another point is that typically the 9th inning is set up to go through the heart of the order, whereas typically the 7th inning is going through the bottom of the order. I can think of one.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 08:32 AM) Nice to see Hudson with a solid game. Sure it was against an anemic offense but hopefully it'll give him the confidence to attack hitters and be a solid starter for us the rest of the way. It still shows that he's ready for the majors. An anemic offense like Seattle will still put a hurtin' on a minor league pitcher (most of the time, at least).

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 03:40 AM) Great all around win. Tigers lose 6 in a row and now Detroit has their own third baseman problem with Brandon Inge out up to 6 weeks with a fractured hand. I've always liked Inge and think he's one of those guys that brings much more than production to his team. I think this hurts the Tigers a lot.

I fell asleep really early (and am paying for it now, as I can't get back to sleep), so I missed the whole game. Great to see a good performance by Hudson and the offense while the Twins and Tigers both lose. Let's just take a few series in a row.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 09:20 PM) Undertaker is the longest I think currently.. Bob Holly use to be the 2nd longest till he got canned a few years ago Yeah, but doesn't Undertaker take breaks for months at a time (including right now)?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 04:11 PM) If he had been excellent overall, he wouldn't have a 4.76 ERA or a 1.56 WHIP. He hasn't been excellent overall. Why do you bother?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 10:01 AM) Frankly, I don't see anyone giving Bobby good money next season. He might well make less than we're paying Putz right now, based on his performance this year. Relievers with WHIP over 1.5 who can't pitch outside the closer's role aren't exactly going to be in huge demand. I don't think Putz would have any interest in signing an extension right now, and I can't imagine the Sox would be able to do so. If he keeps up this performance the whole season, I could easily see someone going out and signing him for 3/$30 to be their closer. But he's not good enough to be our closer.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) I also forgot to mention, but I am pretty sure that Kane won the belt once before and then lost it to Austin immediately the next night on Raw.. it was a long time ago though, so you may want to double check that but im pretty sure that it did indeed happen.. I have seen stuff before indicating that Kane didnt really want to be champion anyways, but, like I already said I am pretty sure this is just going to lead to Kane being the one that took out Undertaker and their match at SummerSlam will be for the belt which Kane will almost surely drop.. He held the other heavyweight belt, plus the ECW one.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) I'm okay with Kane having a reign. He's been a solid worker who gets over and he doesn't seem to be a backstage whiner. An added plus is it got the belt off of Mysterio, who does bug me as world champ. Everyone knows wrestling is "fake" (except that kid yelling IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT! in that video), but just because everyone knows it doesn't mean you have to have an elf as champion. I don't expect Kane to hold the strap very long, though. I'm not sure about this, but he might have the longest unbroken tenure with the franchise right now. He's definitely been around plenty long enough to get the title for a few days. I also hate Mysterio.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 11:28 AM) Nobody has an extended run with the belts not named John Cena anymore. Kane deserves something for his loyalty and tenure. Just doesn't interest me as World Champ. So, give him a run for a few weeks (maybe a month) with the belt as a thank you. I can't see how anyone would be more interested in Mysterio as the champ. They're equally blah.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) Squirrel! Yeah, the dogs and bird were about the only funny parts, but they weren't even that funny.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 11:52 PM) His stretch of horrible was shorter than the rest of the team. This place needs to calm the f*** down sometimes, he's not going to save every chance. He's not going to throw perfect innings 100% of the time, and neither is Putz, Thornton, Sergio, or Raaaaaaandy. Our bullpen has worked thus far and Bobby has been pretty damn solid for over a month up until now. The twins won 1 game of this series and were given 2 more. Considering the run we had, its a much better feeling to make some stupid plays than getting blown out for 3 games. Obviously, as his ERA is almost 5 and his WHIP is terrible.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 03:41 AM) Kane not only winning the MITB but also the WHC ruins it for me.. however its almost perfectly setting up Undertaker to take the belt off him at SummerSlam anyways.. Im diggin The Miz tho, I liked that a lot Oh come on, Kane deserves at least a short run with the belt. It's the first time he's ever had it, and the guy's been around for like 15 years.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) Then I apologize. All in all, I think we'll be fine. Jenks wasn't going to put a Gagne-like streak together of saves, and Beckham has raised his average .029 since last Friday. Oh, and again, we play Seattle 7 times in the next week and a half. No doubt that Beckham and Quentin heating up would all but solve the team's offensive problems. I wouldn't complain if we got another power bat, though.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 06:01 PM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...576&st=6990 That is what I believe has happened. BTW go to that same thread and go back about 20+ pages or so (during the FA frenzy) and that will explain the "RIP" thing on my sig. He still post on the talkbulls. (in fact he was posting there a couple days ago) I don't see anything from Steve in that link. I didn't even know he was banned.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) Then stop being annoying. They're 1.5 games up on their way to face the s***ty M's. Again, it might benefit you to read everything I said. I clearly stated that Jenks is the problem. Nowhere did I say that the season was over (I think one guy has been saying that). I did say, however, that it's worrisome that they lost three in a row to the team that most agree is the real competition for the division.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) Thanks. I'm just sick of it. It's the reason I stopped coming to these boards. There are times when you need to be optimistic (7 games against Seattle in the next 13 days or so day [if my math is right, which it probably isn't]) and pessimistic (getting swept in 4 games @ Cleveland). Let's say we just got swept by Cleveland and the Twins gained 3 games on us. I think these boards, these GREAT boards that some of you dopes are killing, would be even worse than what they are right now. I don't think you're supposed to call people names.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 01:20 PM) The original lineups of The Who and Zeppelin. That's mine.