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QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 09:00 AM) woohoo! and no, not meant to be green. Why, when everyone else on the site is in agreement on something, is there always one person who refuses to see things that are incredibly obvious? This is no shot at Reddy, but there's always that one guy who goes against the entire site for some reason that nobody understands.

QUOTE (hawkubes @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 05:05 AM) If Contreras has a decent defense behind him last night, he has a great outing. I will take Contreras as a no. 5 starter any day. So, you're saying he wouldn't have imploded in a later inning? You know, as he has done his last few starts.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 01:50 AM) First of all you make sure that he's completely healthy and throwing at the same velocity as he was before the injury. Don't want another B.J Ryan situation here. But also Minaya is under a LOT of pressure in NY, and there are big rumors that he'll be replaced as GM at the end of the season, so I wonder what impact that would have on negotiations. And rightfully so. The guy has done nothing to earn that job.

I don't think he's looked dominant in the first few innings. To me, it seems like he just gets away with some mistakes that eventually catch up to him. He may be dominant in the first inning, but it seems he gets hit harder and harder with each passing inning.

Carrasco has saved us three games in a row now, I believe. The man is key part of our success.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) jesus you people are ridiculous tonight. EVERY team runs out guys like Contreras on a weekly basis. he's been an adequate 5th starter this year and came back from a massive injury. give the guy a f***ing break. without the errors he'd have given up 1 or 2 at most. I was about to leave, but then I saw this post. The bold part is blatantly false. His ERA was over 5, even before tonight. Now I'm gone.

And they bend over and go down 1-2-3. Time to watch a movie. See you guys later.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 10:25 PM) what the f***? without the errors the score wouldn't be NEARLY as bad. whats with the hatred towards jose? Because he is a wretched pitcher.

OH GOD, now we won't hear the end of the "homer" by Rios from Hawk.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 10:19 PM) He doesn't make the highlight type errors that Soriano does, but Quentin is one of the worst outfielders in baseball. I was thinking that the other day. Do we really want Quentin to be our everyday RF going forward? He's a bumbling fool out there.

Can we designate Contreras for assignment mid-inning? 6-5. I'm turning this game off, what a pathetic bunch of sissy f***ing losers.

Yes, it really is happening again. I was sarcastic at first, but it's actually happening.

Words can't describe the hatred I have of Jose Contreras on the mound.

And it begins...

Who is this broadcasting with Hawk?

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) He did get slammed much more than Marvin. Heck, there barely was a mention when it came to Marvin. As far as the idiot comment thing, I'm not the only one to agree with the analogy as I'm not the one who wasn't smart enough to come up with it. If you're going to resort to saying, "That's stupid, you're an idiot" or suggest that anyone is an idiot, don't bother. Just state your argument and that's it. If you don't have an argument or at least something smart enough to get me to think, then your post is worthless to anyone here reading. Sorry, let me expound. In deer hunting, the entire point is to kill the animal with as little suffering as possible. The animal is then processed for meat. And, as has been said already, the regulated hunting of deer is also done to keep their numbers from growing too large. In dog fighting, animals are trained to become killers. Smaller dogs and other animals are used to make the fighting dog into a brutal killing machine. The dogs then fight each other, which results in severe, lingering injuries or death (if the dog is lucky enough to have its suffering end that quickly). Dogs that are deemed inadequate to fight are also killed by other inhumane methods (not a simple gunshot to a vital area), but rather by drowning, slamming, electrocution, etc. In the end, this is not done to process the animal for food, regulate the population, or any other positive reason. It is done purely for entertainment and money. The dogs that survive are almost never the same. Some are taken in by groups that attempt to make the animal into a safe pet again, but most are put down because of the severe damage they've sustained both mentally and physically. Plus, the mere act of putting an animal through all of this puts humans in immediate danger due to its behavior. So, perhaps I was a bit harsh in insinuating that a person may be an idiot to see dog fighting and deer hunting as analogous, and for that I apologize. But I will say that any person who actually believes that is extremely ignorant and cannot understand the entire scenario, and might even have trouble with definition of the word "analogy."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) And Neal Cotts sat around in the bullpen saying "come on fellas, gather around and I will tell you a tale of what it is like to pitch in the ALCS" Joe Buck made a similar comment in the final game of the ALCS that year. They had a shot of the Sox relievers sitting on a bench, and Buck said something like, "Neal Cotts is telling the other relievers what it's like to pitch in the ALCS."

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 04:48 PM) He has done a lot of (idiotic) IP managing to get in and make his 10 posts before he gets banned. Who is that?

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 05:25 PM) I understand what your saying and that's my point in the long run. Stop crucifying the guy already. He did his debt, and now let's see if he could resurrect it the same way we're going to see if Dante is. Let's not give this guy more crap, especially when the other guys who have done worse don't get much pub at all. Now we may disagree on the dogfighting/hunting thing, but I just want people to stop giving Vick so much attention for something that's been said and done, and the sentence is over. So when the convicted child molester moves in across the street, I should just assume he's a changed man that paid his dues and I shouldn't judge him anymore for his crimes?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 05:29 PM) Watch it folks. Should I rephrase it to say it's a good analogy if you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about?

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 04:57 PM) I didn't know Leonard Little's story all that well, so I can't comment on him. If he killed a human, he's the same as Stallworth. If he killed dogs or animals, I hope he did his sentence and let's move on. The Buehrle hunting analogy is probably the best thought of analogy up here. Sure, if you're an idiot.

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 01:39 PM) Freddy Garcia: Everything Javy Vasquez is not. I'd normally point out that you didn't spell his name correctly, but f*** Javier Vasquez.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 01:05 PM) Jakey-Jakey first made a mistakey He came to his senses A good rotation is now stellar. That might be the worst attempt at a haiku that I've ever seen. And I've seen my fair share of them.

Thi is encouraging and all, but I can't help but laugh a little at how this reminds me of all of those epic simulated games for Wood and Prior. EDIT: In regards to the hype around such a tiny little thing.

QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 08:55 PM) That was one alleged incident where he was playing cards. Fact was, the pitchers just didn't like him. Hermanson, as I recall, never saw any of that and even advocated his coming in. I don't know about Rios. I'll trust, however, that KW, learned his lesson with Javy. I'll guess he did his homework. And where are those assholes Matt Herges and Brett Tomko now? In the minors or out of baseball. AJ, on the other hand, is hitting the best of his career and shining his ring daily.