Milkman delivers

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 6, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) By "first one", do you mean Thomas Jane's or Dolph Lundgren's? Ha, the Thomas Jane version. I hope you were joking thinking that I'd say the Dolph one was any good.

I saw The Punisher: War Zone earlier. It wasn't nearly as good as the first one. The first one was one of the best comic book movies ever. This one completely changed the storyline (which I found unnecessary and disliked) and was way, way over the top. EDIT: It really missed Thomas Jane.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Detroit Lions Washington Nationals LA Clippers Arizona Cardinals Seattle Mariners Chicago Cubs Atlanta Hawks New Orleans Saints Memphis Grizzlies Kansas City Royals Phoenix Coyotes Milwaukee Brewers I actually had to look up this team. I completely forgot about them.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) Hanley was not a find. Everyone knew he was a top notch prospect. In fact, BA rated him Boston's #1 prospect in 2003, 2004, and 2005. It's safe to say you won't need to give up that type of prospect for Cantu. The Red Sox organization, and especially their fanbase, really soured on Hanley Ramirez in his last few seasons there.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 10:31 AM) Who knows if Opie is going to figure things out; I was actually surprised when I saw him put that SOA jacket on to head to the funeral. The finale was really good, it was something that was needed. Jax tried to burn the book, and then had it taken, but it found it's way back via Piney's crazy ass. The entire scene in the safe-house was great. I don't know which sequence was better... praying Opie's old-lady doesn't get killed by Tig, or Jax taking off his jacket and heading over there and laying a beat down. We might see the building of a new charter by Jax and crew. I have to think quite a few would head to a new crew, or there will be a lot of strife and Clay (and Milkman, I definitely think Bobby would head Clay's way, he's got to be pissed at Opie at this point for freaking during the murder) will have to go down. Seeing this get resolved will be quite entertaining. I already can't wait for season 2. There is no show I enjoy better. I don't know. I think Bobby helping Opie in the first place shows that he's a good guy. And I think that's how the line is basically going to be drawn.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) Well, with Jax, Opie and the old guy probably on the same page, where does it go? Do they stop running guns? They have to make cash somehow to stay strong, otherwise they will end up getting pushed out, and there is only so much money to be made in the garage. The first few episodes next season should be explosive, if the writers have any balls, as they left way too much tension hanging there at the end. Hope they follow thru and deliver something good, whichever way it goes. I think they continue to run guns. I think we definitely see a power struggle next season. A big part of it will probably be seeing who sides on which side. So far, there's Clay and Tigs on one side. On the other, it's Jax, Opie, Piney, and Half-Sack. I'd also guess that Juice is on this side. We don't know yet where Bobby, Chibs, and Smiley (if that's his name) will go.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 12:14 AM) He is 15, all teenager. The situation I described above actually happened last year. And I agree with Lostfan, the kids have no privacy in these situations. I expect them to try and get away with stuff, and until pushed, I let some of it go. I saw the porn on his computer, and it was pretty soft core stuff, and only a few pics, so I didn't say anything, until he messed up to the point where I had to put him in his place. When I was a kid, it would have been a belt, not stuff taken away. That makes sense to take it away from him when he's pushing boundaries. I was just thinking how old he is, and since he's 15, it's only natural for a kid to be looking up porn.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 06:27 PM) Kids are stupid about things like that. My son only recently figured out how to erase the brower history. Although I have informed him that I can still find out where he goes because compared to him, I am a computer God, and then proceeded to show him on his computer where he had TRIED to hide some porn, and then recited the list of things said on hi Myspace page that he didn't know I knew about. STILL tried to insist that he didn't have anythign to do with the page, despite several specific messages on there between him and his girlfriend. Sometimes it just takes an aa whippin'. I simply removed everythgin from his room except the bed and 2 sets of clothes, which were also clothes he didn't like. My room and the office were pretty crowded with his desk, computer, guitar, etc. but he slowly earned it back, and either learned his lesson, or now hides stuff very well. I even had a friend who is a computer genius over last weekend take a look at it, and can't find anything that is new. Good luck, Lostfan. It aint easy being the bad guy. How old is he?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 06:30 PM) lol. the reason she is allowed to have a myspace (she is 11), unbeknownst to her, is that she never remembers to log out so I spy on her conversations fairly regularly. Most of it is mindless 6th grade chatter. That doesn't seem a little too much to you?

I've missed well over 100 posts since I last read this thread. Has anything been finalized? Do we have exact names yet?

I thought it said "Beer Midget," and I thought this was an incredible idea.

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) Ozzy Osbourne died in a plane crash back on March 19th, 1982 with his brilliant guitarist Randy Rhoads. I have no idea who this twat that has replaced him since then is, but he sucks and ruined a wonderful name. QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) I blame the money-hungry puppetmaster much more than the drug-addled, half brain-dead 60 year old (well, 60 tomorrow, anyway). Sharon Osbourne is an absolute pig who will stoop to any depth for a buck. These are the responses I was expecting.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:12 PM) I hope but the "experts" (Rogers and Rosenthal) says the Sox are trimming payroll. Maybe I am misinterpreting this as next year's payroll is going to be significantly smaller when really it's that we are freeing money to go after players. The math was already done in this thread. If the White Sox trade Dye, which they most likely will do, they will have cut over $40 million. There's no way they drop that much. Nobody would show up. They might drop the payroll about $10-15 million, I'd think.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) We all know your opinion on him.... Fact or opinion? In this situation, they're the same.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) Just to get the other opinion, Flowers IS 22 in A ball. I dunno dudes. And Javier Vazquez sucks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:36 PM) Some of us are doing the googling of him now. What would you like to know? He was solid in the Pittsburgh organization, traded in the Laroche deal to the Braves, he struggled some with the Braves as they moved him up pretty quick, and last year was pretty rough for him althoguh I'm trying to find out if he was hurt for part of the year. I've only ever heard his name, and know nothing of him. Any information would be helpful.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:12 PM) Right-handed pitcher Javier Vazquez has been told he's headed from the Chicago White Sox to the Atlanta Braves in a deal which is likely to be finalized on Wednesday. Vazquez is flying to Atlanta on Wednesday morning for a physical. A baseball source told ESPN's Peter Gammons that the deal will include four other players, including reliever Boone Logan, who would also go from the White Sox to the Braves. Among the players expected to go from Atlanta to the Chicago organization are Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge and another top prospect. Vazquez, 32, was 12-16 last season for the White Sox with a 4.67 ERA in 33 starts. He struck out 200 batters in 208 1/3 innings. Logan, a left-handed reliever, was 4-4 with a 5.70 ERA out of the White Sox bullpen last year. He had a 2-3 record in 55 appearances. Reyes was 3-11 with a 5.81 ERA last season for the Braves. He started 22 games. Lillibridge appeared in 90 games at Triple-A Richmond in the Braves organization. He hit .220 with four home runs and 39 RBIs. Was he hurt? That sounds terrible. Also, this is a good deal for both Vazquez and Logan. It never hurts to pitch for the Braves. Vazquez is now back in the NL and much, much closer to Puerto Rico.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) If we got Mike Gonzalez, or even Rafael Soriano, as part of the deal, I'd be a happy man. I'd prefer Gonzalez, but he's a bigger injury risk. Also, if we got Gonzalez, that could/would make Jenks more expandable. He doesn't have much more room for expansion! Ha, I'm a few pages behind and hope I'm not late on this joke.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! I've been waiting for something, ha. Anyone have any details on Lillibridge?

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 03:42 PM) That's been around awhile. It's kind of sad when millionaires have nothing better to do than get arrested. Yes, someone even had it as their avatar for a while. It might've been REM JICO.

I'm not sure of your ages, but were either of you fans from the very beginning? I'm trying to put myself into the shoes of someone who has been following a band since its origin, and then sees something like this happen. I can only speculate, as I haven't followed any band or singer for that long, and none of the bands or singers I've liked for a while have sold out yet.

Can a mod chance it to "Ozzy" in the title? EDIT: Wow, did it before I even asked. Thanks to whomever that was.

This is mostly pointed towards posters who have been fans since the heyday of Ozzy and Black Sabbath. How does it make you feel to see Ozzy become such a huge whore in the past decade? I love Black Sabbath and the non-recent Ozzy stuff, and it gives me a pretty clear feeling of disappointment to see what Ozzy has become. I have one uncle in particular who was an enormous fan growing up, and I can only imagine how he feels on the subject. So, before I can actually ask him, I'd like to hear what you people have to say. EDIT: I just realized I spelled his name throughout the thread. OG on the brain.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) What would these players have to do with Fukudome? All Japanese players will be dissapointments now? The "whoa is me" KW is back with $.75, and everything costs $1.00. There is no reason to comment if you don't have the budget for it. If they are so broke, how in the hell were they going to pay for Hunter or Fukudome last season? Woe, Nelly.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:47 PM) I agree. It is probably KW's way of sending the message that the Japanese players are asking too much money. Agreed, and it looks like we've found ourselves a nice little market in Cuba. Everyone is looking in Japan right now, but I think we have a clear advantage for any player coming out of Cuba. And IMO, I'd take a Cuban player any day of the week over a Japanese player. They are both fundamentally sound for the most part, but Cubans seem much less hit-or-miss and also seem to have more staying power (and power in general). I think people are coming late to the party when it comes to signing Japanese players. People see the Dice-K's and Ichiro's, but there are a lot of crap players coming out of Japan that get nice contracts due to the minority of quality MLB players coming from that area. What I'm saying is basically that I would rather focus on Cuba (and the Americas as a whole) because I believe the talent to be much, much greater.