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QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Feb 24, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) Please tell me you're joking. Like pro trump supporters or protesters? https://twitter.com/natureguy101/status/835167473590751236

I wish Brett would show up and post another "REMEMBER WHEN A LIBERAL SAID THIS 20 YEARS AGO AND NOBODY HERE SAID ANYTHING?!?! NO?!? CRICKETS!!!! FINE BYE!!" And not post again for three days

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 24, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) Is that actually an exact quote or are you messing with the dates, etc. I still think Niko can become a good player...he drives me nuts with his stupid shot selection, but his defense has improved significantly (not saying he's great, but he's solid). He needs to let the three point shots come to him, cause he is too good of a shooter to be shooting as poor as he is from beyond the arch. I expect he'll finish the year strong (he's always been streaky so he's due for a hot streak). Zipser can play D and has shown a knack for making solid moves. Given where we got him, I'm very pleased with the value of that pick as of today's date. I messed with the dates to show that we were all pretty jacked about Niko being rookie of the month two years ago and he has been either stuck in neutral or rolling backwards ever since. Zipser had a nice little run, but we can not count on him yet, nor can we be sure that he is going to be even a solid player at this point

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ March 30, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) I've seen enough of Niko play to know that he has some upside and a solid future. He's been hurt recently, but guy is going to be able to play. Just sayin

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 24, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) You have to love the "jobs" President attacking a multi billion dollar industry that provides tens of thousands of jobs based on incorrect facts (marijuana use is linked to opioid abuse). If it's not a heavy manufacturing job or a coal mine, this jobs president isn't that worried about it. Hmm, why would you link marijuana to opioid abuse? Maybe because of big pharma and private prisons? Hmmmm so strange

I no longer get the feeling that Paxson is the smart one sitting back and letting everyone else hang themselves. After the past two seasons where he continues to blame Thibs, he is absolutely complicit in this operation

President who frequently uses anonymous sources for his reasoning denounces anonymous sources when the stories don't favor him

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 24, 2017 -> 08:15 AM) Zipser is tied for the lowest PER in the league.......with Cameron Payne. Hoibergs "rotations" havent done him (or anyone on that bench, for that matter) any favors. Those guys will go a week and a half without playing, get thrown in a game out of nowhere, back to the bench, start 2 games, back to the bench.

You listen to a press conference like that and can't help but think "sometimes saying nothing is better than saying that" Jfc

https://twitter.com/bulls_jay/status/834867249232109568 Don't click on this link if you wanted the Nets picks

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) So, let's go ahead and take a look at what we dealt for Doug McDermott Jusuf Nurkic, a 22 year old, high-upside center now starting for the Trail Blazers Gary Harris, the 23 year old, starting 2-guard for the up-and-coming Denver Nuggets Oh, but we also added a 2nd rounder and Taj Gibson to dump this guy. F*ck off, GarPax. Can't wait to hear about how Payne is the future. I read the overall cost for Doug at the time he was drafted was 2 first rounders and 3 2nd rounders(which were used to acquire the second first rounder, and to move up) So, yea. that worked out great

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) The Bulls somehow managed to make me feel worse about our current situation. Now we have a somehow worse team around Jimmy. This is why I want no part of allowing them to trade Jimmy and rebuild it. Im surprised they didnt trade Jimmy for Bradley and a second round pick

Bernstein just reminded me that last year when the trade deadline ended, Gar came to his press conference and declared that Pau Gasol was an important part of this teams future L M A O

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) What time is the deadline? 2PM central

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) Sure it is. I think Forman and Paxson getting fired is a pipe dream though. and i think Forman and Paxson fixing things is just as big of a pipe dream

Gimme shirsey

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) I honestly don't disagree with you on GarPax. Best case scenario is that the Bulls sit tight at the deadline. So does Boston. The Bulls are brutal down the stretch. GarPax gets fired. Boston loses in like 6 to Cleveland in the Conference Finals. Boston gives up the Brooklyn pick + Bradley + Brown package for Butler in the offseason under a new front office. ^^^^this is the preferred alternate path^^^^

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) I think that if the Bulls are interested in moving Butler, they will never see a better package than Boston could offer now. Brown + Brooklyn 17 + Bradley (if that was on the table) would give the Bulls a pretty big head start on the rebuild. Most contenders aren't sitting on a surplus of top 3 picks that they can move for your star. The alternative is what is the path to winning with Butler? They will need to either hit on some mid-teens picks or do some exceptional work in FA (either through the big name FA signings or finding value in other team's castoffs). But if the Bulls are not a top 3 seed in the East by 2020, I will be shocked if Butler re-signs. Obviously, if the Celtics don't make a move, this can all be re-visited again in the offseason. And I completely understand the lack of trust and faith in GarPax to take on a rebuild. But if the Bulls spend the next 3+ years as a .500 team in the East squeaking into the playoffs, they will set themselves back another half decade. I am not going to continue to reiterate my distrust of Garpax(as I reiterate my distrust of Garpax lol) Making that trade locks Garpax in for the foreseeable future to see through the rebuild. That, to me, is unconscionable (sp?)

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 09:10 AM) You don't have Jimmy as the asset that he is now once that finally happens though. That's the part nobody talks about. Jimmy is 28 and has played heavy minutes. He's also going to need a massive extension in a couple of seasons. The plan I proposed may not work. I've said that. Adding pieces around Jimmy to be a "playoff team" is stupid though and offends me as a sports fan. You keep acting like Butler is ready to fall off a cliff and the bulls are operating in his walk year. Money talks, if they swirl down the drain this season like they did last season(and the final Thibs season which was engineered by Gar's power play), it will not go unnoticed. Let it happen. The Bulls can still trade Jimmy this year, next year, and the following season, and the season after that, he is signed until 2020. f*** Gar

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) It is true. If you want to keep Jimmy and build around him you may think you "want to win championships" but it's delusion. Jimmy is really good. You need two more players that are really good. I have no idea where those guys are coming from. Generally, the best players in the NBA are taken really high in the draft. That's how you get premium talent. The Bulls have no path to that talent. Look, i know you believe in your one path theory, its great and all, but it has just as much guarantee as wanting this front office to fail hard and get fired for losing corporate sponsorships due to lack of wins. Take a gander at Gars drafting and trading decisions and free agent over his entire career and tell me you think this "path" is the only way to winning a championship. After you say yes, I will sell you some of Dick Allens oceanfront property in Iowa

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) It's probably going to take a 1st to acquire him. He's not a fit for the modern NBA. It's another guy that doesn't fit the system of the coach you have. He's a terrible defensive player and is unathletic. He can score but he's such a defensive liability that he doesn't really fit what most teams are trying to do. I want them to trade Butler for a nice deal from the Celtics because it's the only thing that makes sense if they truly care about winning titles (which they don't). As a sports fan, I think the point of this whole thing is winning championships. Could they cobble together some pieces around their star and win 50 games? Yes, probably. They can't be a legit contender doing it though which I've stated. Butler is on a cheap deal but they can't add enough around him to compete for championships. And then in 2.5 years he will get a massive deal. They can't add around him fast enough to make it worth it. Trading Jimmy resets the potential championship window. The rookies probably wouldn't be as good as Butler but they are cheaper and offer hope ideally. I understand if you don't trust Paxson and Forman to complete this process but I believe that relying on them to complete the rebuild is still a better option than patching 45 wins teams together and wasting Butler's prime without cashing in that asset. You may disagree but if you do your standard isn't winning championships. Categorically untrue

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 06:36 AM) The Salmons deal cost us a draft pick that turned into Isaiah Thomas. The Bulls had 3 chances that draft to pick Isaiah Thomas, he was the very last pick. The deal made no difference, the Bulls chose not to draft him

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) When is the last time the Bulls made a good trade? Simply for the fact that they ditched a rapidly declining and disinterested player, I would say trading Rose to the Knicks was good

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) I have to ask the question...I realize George Karl didn't work in Sacremento, but why is George Karl a bad coach? Guy has been very successful in a couple different destinations. I would say George Karl, at that point in his career, was not really a good coach anymore. I mean, look at what he did immediately upon getting hired. He immediately talked s*** about Boogie and tried to get him traded, openly. It was extremely unprofessional and things never got better

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) Dan Pompei is considered one of the nicest guys in the industry so I think he might. Not after the little cut up of Pompeiis comments that he just played for TO