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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) Not that I disagree with you but I think May goes before Hanson. With the way the Sox used Hanson this year, I think there are about five players that go before him. There are multiple guys in the pen that will be gone long before Hanson.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 11:43 AM) Thats the thing, do you want recruits that would have taken money from those schools? If you are telling that schools will say no to these guys, I am going to laugh in your face.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) Yeah not saying you have people right where you want em, but I do think there is going to be some weird movement that UofI has good appeal to capitalize on due to system/playing time. Depending on the fallout from the Adidas scandal, a lot of crazy things could happen over the next year.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) I think Sale's biggest problem is that no one has the balls to tell him "no". He seemed tired and worn out last night. The Red Sox should have had him skip a few more starts in the regular season to save his bullets, but I'm sure that everyone knows he would have thrown a temper tantrum. Well Kenny Williams did...

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Probably but hanson stayed largely due to being able to play all 3 OF position. It made it easier to keep him since he I think played all positions except 1b/C at least once. And he can do it with 75-80 speed off of the bench.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 09:22 AM) There really weren't at bats to go around either in the infield. Anderson shortstop, Moncada 2B, Yolmer, a good amount of at bats at 3B. Those same guys are all back next year. It also leaves out Hansen and Saladino who are still ahead of everyone else.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) What does Moncada have to do with any of this? I don't think that Peter should start next year, but I do think he's a better option than Saladino to come off the bench and get 250-400 PAs next year to see if he can be a valuable bench piece. The White Sox could disagree with that, but they would be at odds with every piece of available information in doing so. I don't get the Jake Peter thing at all. Another great example of what the Sox think of him, despite not playing everyday, they didn't send him to AFL. I am going to go back to my original statement and say that Peter isn't protected, nor is he selected in the draft, and leave it at that. Jake Peter isn't worth the posts that have already been made about him.

QUOTE (Soha @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 08:15 AM) Basabe was a lottery ticket that some scouts loved. Unfortunately for us, he went the wrong way once he came here. You win some and you lose some. Neither Basabe or Diaz is dead yet either. Basabe will be young for A+ ball even if he repeats it. Diaz had an injury filled year, but has the arm to move fast as reliever through the system.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 07:35 AM) If the Sox had hung on to Sale and he had the same regular season he had this year, they would still get a ton for him. It all depends on how these guys develop. If Kopech is a stud and Moncada is a stud, there shouldn't be any complaints. The other pieces were filler, maybe one works out. During a rebuild, it's probably not worth the risk holding him another year in hopes of a slightly better package. Too much can go wrong. If the offers were light, absolutely. That's what Hahn did with Q, and got what right now seems like a better package than the rumored Pittsburgh package that a lot of people liked. Right now, Kopech is way better than advertised. If he is a TOR guy, the Sox got great value. It all comes down to how they eventually perform, and nothing is guaranteed with prospects. Some of these guys are going to bust. The good news to me is a couple on no radar might actually develop into something. The one thing I took out of this season is there does seem to be hope the White Sox develop someone with not much fanfare into a useful player. It's been a while. They did exactly that this year.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 07:16 AM) I'm trying to figure out how the Eaton deal, which came right after the Sale deal, makes it wise for Sox to accept Basabe and Diaz, two guys who will likely never be close to quality MLBers, as the final two parts of a 4 player haul for Sale. I'm still trying to have one person tell me what better deal was out there. Or how they would have been willing to take Chris Sale into the regular season because this imaginary deal you seek wasn't out there.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 01:30 AM) I think you missed the "back issues" and "age 29 season" part. As for Peter, he ended his age 24 season hitting nearly .300 with an over .850 OPS playing while playing 5 different positions for the Knights. He's also performed better than Saladino at each level of the minor leagues at a younger age. I don't see the case for Saladino over Peter. in 194 ABs. You are talking about a minor league career of .741 OPS for the rest of his time. A guy who hasn't been good enough to be an everyday starter at one position in the minors. The position he plays most of all is 2B, which is covered is covered by some guy named Moncada. He is not passing up all of the legitimate major leaguers in our system, including Tyler Saladino this off season. You might not see the case for Tyler, but the White Sox have already made it.

That was a fun way to start the season.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 08:08 PM) Based on what? Saladino is entering his age 28 (maybe 29 depending on how you want to count it since his birthday is July 20) season, has back issues, just posted a whopping 33 wRC+, has never posted a full or partial season wRC+ of 100, and did not show as well defensively as in prior years. Jake Peter, on the other hand, is entering his age 25 season and has done nothing but hit and offer positional versatility on his steady climb through the White Sox organization. He's not likely to be a star, but I'd bet on him providing more value than -1.2 WAR if he's on the White Sox for most or all of the season next year. Saladino probably would as well, but I think Peter is the more likely player to be above 0.0 WAR if he's on the 25 man roster. I think you missed the "don't overweight this year" part. He obviously had a bad year, we get it. But it is also pretty obvious the White Sox still believe in him as they kept him on the roster and gave him ABs all of the way through the end of the season. They sure didn't do that for the players they were done with. Think of guys like Brad Goldberg they were on the roster, but they still never called back. Then they dropped him completely. If the Sox were done with Tyler, he would be gone. On top of it, it isn't like Peter is even doing big things in the minors that screams call up. He has so many guys ahead of him it isn't even funny.

Mmmm, tasty meatball.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 05:50 PM) So why hold the roster spot for him over Peter, who is probably at least the same player, and offers the potential to become a better player? Because Saladino probably has a higher ceiling. Don't overweight a bad year this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) The Yankees would have had to start a deal with Frazier, Torres, and someone like Rutherford or Mateo to beat the Red Sox deal. I am not going to include Judge as literally no one thought he would have this kind of year. Maybe as a last guy in the deal, but not as a primary guy as that just makes for hindsight and not counterfactual material. Going back to this I am going to mention that the Sale and Eaton deals were sort of connected. While it sounds like Washington actually had the second best offer for Sale, the Sox parlayed a few of those guys into the eventual Eaton deal once Hahn found out who was available from the Sale deal. If the Sox send Sale to Washington, it also means the Eaton deal never happens, so you have to figure out a way to rebuild that deal somewhere else. From the whispers, it sounds the combination of both deals was by far the largest offers we had for the combination of both players, and while maybe you get more for Sale from someone else, if you get a much smaller deal from Eaton because the Sale deal took up their top prospects, you end up with a net loss even if you get more for Sale individually.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Speech is constitutionally protected, but there are restrictions placed upon that right. Also, re: your abortion argument, I don't see many in the pro-choice camp advocating for unrestricted abortions at 8 months, so I don't think that analogy is on point either. In the same general sense there are restrictions placed on gun ownership and usage.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) Only way the Sox could have done better is if the Yankees knew theyd be good and started a bidding war with Red Sox. The problem was at the time I believe NYY thought they werent making the playoffs this year. The Yankees would have had to start a deal with Frazier, Torres, and someone like Rutherford or Mateo to beat the Red Sox deal. I am not going to include Judge as literally no one thought he would have this kind of year. Maybe as a last guy in the deal, but not as a primary guy as that just makes for hindsight and not counterfactual material.

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QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) I don't see how there couldn't be, he is still under 23 and has less than six years of professional experience. There are not any other stipulations that would exclude him from those rules as far as anyone has reported. Not just for Maitan, but for international signings in general.

QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) So he's saying don't have any restrictions? If thy want to root out corruption, make an international draft and that's that. The guys who follow the international stuff the most (Balder and Law amongst the leaders) don't think there should be any caps or limits.

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