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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) yes, this post is the difference maker. Keep throwing bad posts after good.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) So I have a question about Perez. If he did test positive for PEDs, would he start out in some type of program? Like in the NFL if players test positive for say marijuana in college, they are put into the substance abuse program when they're drafted. Always have been curious about this. I do not believe so. He is out of the jurisdiction of MLB at this time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) I'm fine with you not voting for Clinton if you at least acknowledge that the "crazy" you administer to the Democrats in their nomination for president is not the other side of the coin to the Republicans nominating Trump. The socialist planks are a different kind of crazy, but a crazy just the same, at least in my eyes.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) It's more or less boilerplate New Deal Democrat stuff; it doesn't come close to approaching the crazy of "nukes for everyone! ban muslims! build a wall!" or "reset the federal government to 1885". But good news! Bernie Sanders is not going to be the Democratic candidate, so your concerns are abated. It isn't for you. It is for me. Also there is zero chance of me every voting for Hillary Clinton. None.

Jose Abreu.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:19 PM) Hillary's policy proposals are all fairly standard Democratic positions. I can concede that the Libertarian Party's craziness is comparable to Trump's (in amount of crazy, not specific policies), though. Wanting to completely abolish all federal regulations, public education, and public health (Medicare) while also wanting competing (non-fiat, of course!) currencies is bonkers. The difference is I hear Bernie's platform as a special amount of crazy.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) On the other hand, the LP policy platform is pants-on-head crazy Compared to the rest of this election cycle, meh.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) I think the Sox learned their lesson with what happened with Beckham. Not that he would have been any better if they kept him in the minors for longer but they sure didnt do the guy any favors. Giving him a chance to see adversity in AA or AAA could have been beneficial.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 03:45 PM) The flip side of that argument is that if you're not winning, they're not showing up anyway. So why not do a full rebuild and take the short-term attendance hit? The Sox survived the late '80s and late '90s, and I don't see why they can't do it again. Looking at that era of numbers tells me that it won't be short term, and it won't be small. Especially if they fail at all in the rebuild, of which I have zero faith in them being able to do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) It's only June so polls only matter so much, but it's looking like this year will be the LP's best showing. They may break 5%, which means they'd be eligible for federal election funds (irony!), but it's tough to see Johnson polling consistently above 15% to get in the debates. That is who I am voting for, and telling everyone who doesn't like Trump or Clinton. Getting a third choice would be so nice.

QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) I'm not sure if you get the concept of negotiations and leverage. And I'm sure it is his agent talking to the teams. I'd have my agent talk to the team I hated the most if I knew I could use them as leverage. And if they were my best or only offer and I had made almost 100 MM in my life, well I might still tell them to take-a-hike. Ugh. You are totally missing the point. Justin Morneau was full of s***. There is no need to make excuses for him to to justify it.

This is one of the best primers I have seen done on what rip tides actually look like. The clips where they have the dye in the water so you can see the flow are pretty astounding. This is a spectacular visual on what is happening when rip tides actually happen. http://oceantoday.noaa.gov/ripcurrentscience/welcome.html

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) The problem is you don't have 10 years, you have 4 or 5 or 6 if you are small market because once your guys get to free agency, you have to start again. You can trade them for more prospects sooner, but it's like throwing water off of a boat with a bucket. You're just buying time. And with the fan base, you don't have a lot of patience for rebuilding.

QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) If what you mean is that he can't come right out and tell the Sox what to do with (or to) themselves, then fine. But, IMO, any REAL change will only have to come if the only, or by far the best, offer he gets is from the Sox. There's a considerable difference between him not balking at talking to the Sox and having a change of heart and playing nice. QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:42 PM) Given the amount of money he's made in his career I seriously doubt he "needs" a job. If he's interested its because he wants to keep playing probably not for the small amount of money he's going to get (small in relative terms to the average person.) Mark Which all means all of his bluster of the White Sox was just talk, because despite everything, he is still talking to them about a job.

QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) All the more reason to be diplomatic and not to tell someone to GTH even though you really want to. If the time comes and the Sox ARE the market, then we'll see how badly he still wants to play. Which goes back to my point that he has to change now that he wants a job.

QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 02:10 PM) I'm sure his agent is telling him that it's in his best interest to have as many teams as possible involved to drive up the market. The 'no' could very easily come later when selecting among any/all offers. Ideally, sure. But what do you think the market looks like for a brain damaged DH?

QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Does it say that he's interested in the Sox? I read it as: the Sox are interested in him. If he still wants to play, he obviously benefits from as many bidders as possible, c.f. Tim Lincecum. He may yet tell them to take-a-hike. If he wasn't interested, it wouldn't be news worthy because it wouldn't have gotten past the "No" stage.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:35 PM) lmao what's your obsession with this dude? He tends to focus on one thing at a time. At least this time there are two words in it.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) Wasn't Morneau the Twin who was burning Sox hats before a series 7-8 years ago? My how times have changed. Funny how things change when you need a job.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) Dave Cameron: MLB Should Throw the Book at Yordano Ventura Bravo. Enough of this dirtbag and his psychopathic behavior. Agreed. Equate this to take out slides at second. Repeatedly throwing at people, is the same as repeatedly trying to injury people on take out slides. His suspension should reflect that.

I bet he is on the trading block. Have you seen his numbers?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Years is an understatement. Try decades. Would you be OK with the White Sox tanking for 20 years? Try 30.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Maybe Gonzalez or Putnam (though Gonzalez is scheduled to start tomorrow). Albers was awesome last year and for the first five or so weeks of this season. So while he may have been over-worked last month, his track record doesn't suggest that he's going to suck for the rest of the season. Gonzalez isn't an option because of his start. With Albers moved out of the set up role, Putnam is there, which means then you are setting Albers up to be in the 6th or 7th inning instead of the 5th. That doesn't strike me as better.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) This is the time to make a move. If you fail to make the playoffs again this year, or so any significant improvement whatsoever, then you replace him in the offseason when you can actually do the full fledged interview process. What the hell is a managerial change going to do right now? For every Jack McKeon in Florida, there are 100 Luis Pujols's. Yeah, I am not usually a firings kind of guy, but if you are going to, the time is pretty much right now. If you let the season get away from you too much more, you will miss out on the window to get back into it. At that point you leave him here to tank the season anyway.

After Jennings fails, who else do you send out there in the 5th inning?