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QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 13, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) He's in as per usual. He seems like the most sensible candidate in a Trump/Clinton election. I feel like I can't waste a vote on him this time around as I can't accept President Trump. That being said, I live in Texas and my vote doesn't matter. If you live in a state where your "vote doesn't matter" a 3rd party vote is actually more valuable than a vote for the 2nd place candidate, as it can help push their total towards the minimum totals to get them to the table in places like debates.

QUOTE (Dunt @ May 13, 2016 -> 12:13 PM) If the Sox were able to swing a trade for Braun + Lucroy, would you trade Rodon+? Our pitching staff would be a laughing stock at that point.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 13, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) LOL What? This is nonsense. I don't hate Hawk. It is absurd that he left the broadcast to check on a player though. Would he do the same thing is Carlos Sanchez or Tyler Saladino hit their face on a chair? This goes back to why I love the guy. He lives and dies with the White Sox, and the emotion he puts into a game corresponds with that. There is literally no one else on the planet who will give you that. It is a big part of what makes Hawk, Hawk.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) The status quo has not changed, even with the passing of that law. 6 months ago this was a non-issue and trans people went to the bathroom that the NC law is now just mandating they go to. A few sparse examples have popped up where trans people have complained about not being able to go to a certain bathroom, and now, 6 months later, it's a top story and priority in Washington. It's a typical American "problem." We got outraged about black people being shot (good job team!), now lets get outraged about 1000 people in the entire country not being able to go to the bathroom they want to go in. The whole thing is absolutely embarrassing, on both sides. How many people had been sued before the RFRA push?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) Trump, the "self-funding" man who is going to get money out of politics, actually just loaned his campaign money and is now courting major donors whose donations will be used to pay back the loan. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-elect...r_feed_politics #smartbusinesman

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 13, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) I cannot believe this country, and specifically the federal government, is wasting this much time, effort, money and attention on this issue. Kinda like RFRA.

The federal government is setting letters to all public schools in the US with guidelines on how to treat transgender students.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 12, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 6m6 minutes ago Best options at present for Tim Lincecum are starting jobs with white sox or angels and pen with SFGiants Heyman is also the one who reported that he was hitting 92 in his outing, no?

Fun fact: Mike Garrigan @MikeGarrigan23 .#toddfrazier has 4 HR 14 RBI in 10 May games Tigers #3 hitter #MiguelCabrera has 4 HR 14 RBI in 33 games this season

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 10m10 minutes ago The #Whitesox have already been in 1st place this season 3 times as much as previous 3 years combined; 31 days compared to 11 in 2013-2015

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 12, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) I don't have a problem with getting better, I didn't say I am completed satisfied with where we're at or the roster as constructed. I made a post regarding a few roster moves earlier in this thread. What I said is - I don't understand why the Cubs need to be mentioned every other post. So true.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Both Young and Medlen to the DL today Jon Morosi @jonmorosi #Royals place 40% of rotation on DL in 1 press release: Chris Young (right forearm strain), Kris Medlen (right rotator cuff inflammation).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 12, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) Apparently they aren't digging deep enough. As you said he punched a teammate, he gambled, he cheated on his wife..all stuff we already knew but if all these things were around they would have dug and found much more. That is what you have claimed. So why wouldn't they try to dig up something now? What do you think they would have done to Walter Payton? Do you think the NFL Man of the Year award would be named in his honor? Is this the stage where you just start naming names of other people and things? I have no idea what Michael Jordan is up to now, but you seem to think he is still up to stuff. You tell me what he is up to, I don't know. As for the information on him, I think it is very clear that these things are dug into MUCH more deeply today. Two good examples of it have already been given in this thread. There are more out there.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 12, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) Well, I am of the strong opinion that over the course of some sustained winning we would convert many of those who today would be considered bandwagon into the loyal category. Look at the Blackhawks. They surely drew in a large component of bandwagon fans when they first started winning a few years ago. And I'd say many of them who have enjoyed the experience ever since will remain loyal fans, even as the winning starts to die down a bit. The Bulls went through a similar evolution during and after the dynasty years. But you have to start somewhere, and right now the Sox are starting at the bottom as there hasn't been any winning in recent memory. But the team will get there with continued winning. Historically it doesn't matter. Even in a year like 2008 where they made the playoffs in one of the most exciting playoff races in team history, their attendance fell over 2007. It also fell into 2009, so there was no positive during or after. The same thing happened in 2012 when they were in first place until the last two weeks. Despite that, they still fell off versus 2011, and again in 2013. No matter what the latest "standard" is, eventually Sox fans find the new reason not to go. Pre-2005 it was making the playoffs. Today it has become being a playoff team annually, instead of just once. Those are just the respectable ones. The ones like seat colors are my personal favorites. Plus watching the ebb and flow of the Chicago teams for decades now, there is zero doubt in my mind that White Sox fans are the most fickle of them all. They are the quickest to jump off of the bandwagon in Chicago. The Cubs, Bears, and Bulls have gone through ridiculous eras of losing that puts the White Sox to shame, and their attendance suffered no where near what the White Sox did, so I would hardly call those comparisons apt. The Hawks are a maybe, because at least they have the fact that there is a significant portion of Chicago that just doesn't care about them no matter what (non-hockey fans) like the White Sox do (Cub fans). But it took an insanely long period of time for their fan base to fall off, whereas the Sox fan base descent survived intact through playoff years and near playoff teams.

QUOTE (Dunt @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) I dont think there is any rush, but if he keeps tearing it up, do you bat around the idea of bringing Anderson up in the middle of a pennant race? Given his propensity for the slow start, I'd say not until September, unless something crazy happens.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics...s-idUSKCN0Y3074

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) 2016 Michael Jordan is still around. He's still popular. He's still most likely doing things you would think TMZ and the like would bury him for. Yet nothing. Tell me why. That is a complete non sequitur. The absence of something isn't proof of something else. Besides, what is he doing now that TMZ is ignoring?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) What would TMZ or youtube or twitter uncover about Jordan's gambling,and womanizing and anything about his dad that wasn't already out there? That is kind of the point actually. This was all going on in an era where none of this stuff was around, and stories like this faded away pretty quickly. There was no digging, there was no outrage for outrages sake. There was no reverberation and 24 hour rumor mill. There weren't the millions of amatuers fishing for clicks based on whatever they can get them from. Jordan punches two different teammates at two different times (at least) and we find out about it years later, even though the local media all knew when it happened. The gambling stuff happened, and had some cursory reporting, but how many people really dug into it and got details? Who knows what else is out there that we had no idea about. In 2016, what is to say that someone with their phone out doesn't get Jordan on video doing any of this stuff? Maybe they get Jordan on tape using a slur about Krause. Who knows. But that is exactly it. You can hand wave it away all you want, but the reality is it isn't the same environment as having your local media protect you like it was 30 years ago.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) You all are confirming a lot of chatter I hear. They get too small as soon as you have a second. Good stuff, thanks. That is why we went from CRV to Oddessy.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) If not for tmz, donald sterling would still own the clippers. That's all you need to know about the difference between now and then. It's no contest. Another one that come to mind is Ray Rice and the viral elevator video. No social media, no TMZ, and Ray Rice is still running in the NFL.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 12, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Getting used to the "genius", are ya? Progress!! More like the repetition, but OK. No I am not surprised that you are perfectly OK with having a largely bandwagon fan base. You have stated as such in the past. I would prefer to have a more loyal base that would supply the team with more assets for downtime, but personal preference I suppose.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 12, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) But those aren't some secrets nobody knows about. He's already had that thrown at him and it bounced off his back. Do you really think all these star athletes today who aren't getting burned in the press and social media lead lives on the straight and narrow? That they don't do anything remotely near the things in which you think MJ would get destroyed? If you can't see the difference between the way the media handled him today, and the way social media intensifies a story today, no amount the typical back and forths where you search for one key word to take exception with will change anything.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 12, 2016 -> 12:27 PM) True, but nobody even noticed until he had a major crazy public spectacle. Before that, he had random women left and right, not a soul cared or knew. Punching multiple teammates and everything to do with his dad would be have been perfect in's to it.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 12, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Yea, but it took a lot before that happened. MJ may or may not have gotten busted, but I would lean on the side of him being about to successfully stay out of it in order to maintain his image, because he knows how much his image is worth Jordan was also involved in a lot of nasty things that social media would have loved to run with.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 12, 2016 -> 12:14 PM) Former Bear Eben Britton wrote about being a functional drug addict in the NFL. Some pretty crazy stuff here https://thecauldron.si.com/what-does-it-tak...ab00#.mrja0t8zt Interesting what he says about the 2014 bears team after they got smoked by NE That is an impressive read. Bravo to the guy stepping up to publicly out himself to make the story.