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QUOTE (bulokis @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) I still trade Shark if we get a good package of players a SS, C . Maximize the Shark's value by trading him and signing him in the offseason If we get a Price or Cueto like return that centers around a 3B, C, or potential front line starter, I am in.

To my point... Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m5 minutes ago Shockingly, Padres one of just five teams that haven't made a trade with deadline in 3 1/2 hours. Others: Cubs, White Sox, Twins, D'backs.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 7m7 minutes ago The #Brewers are getting Malik Collymore from #Stlcards for Jonathan Broxton and cash, reports @AdamMcCalvy

Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 1m1 minute ago The Gerardo Parra for Zach Davies deal is official. Medicals all cleared. Party on, #Orioles fans.

I do believe the White Sox have been careful. Seeing at who has been discussed, there have been plenty of chances for the Sox to jump in and throw caution to the wind. But they haven't.

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 1h1 hour ago BREAKING: Russell Wilson and Seahawks reach contract extension for 4 years, $87.6 million. (via ESPN and @SINOW)

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 06:05 AM) I didn't install it yesterday. Maybe I should wait to make sure there are no bugs for most other people. This is exactly where I am at. When it comes to Windows, no way am I a first day guy. You know there will be problems, let those problems get fixed first.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) Many top prospects never sniff AAA. They go from AA to the majors. AAA is for fillers and guys trying to make it back to the majors. Also very true.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:46 AM) https://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...s/all-time#1990 Dominating the minors would probably put you in the top 20 prospects in all of baseball. I'm not saying EJ is a top 20 guy (he was #63 in 2014), especially because his dominating stretch is still a pretty small sample size, but I was more making an overall point about dominant minor league numbers. I went through that list from 1990-2000 and 45% of the prospects ranked in the top 20 played at least 1000 games (goes over 50% if the cutoff is down to 900 games instead of 1000) and that's not even counting all the pitchers who don't get that high but definitely did enough to stick around. 900-1000 games is 6+ seasons, I think that qualifies as sticking at the major league level. What you need a list of guys who dominated AAA. A top prospects list leaves off guys like Jeff Bajenaru and Andy Wilkins who destroyed AAA, but flopped at the majors. There are lots and lots of guys who do exactly that who never show up on lists like that.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) What's a normal age to start following a team as a die-hard? I'm 25 but my first season following the White Sox all the way through was the 2004 team. I guess I was a late bloomer. For me, I was 10 when the 1983 team happened, that is the team that hooked me for life.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:01 AM) So his utter dominance down there means nothing? Really? Guys who completely tear up AAA stick at the MLB level more often than not. Even if you don't believe in EJ, his turnaround has increased his value quite a bit. If we wanted to trade him, we could do a lot better than an Upton rental. I'd like to see some statistical proof of that. I feel this is more of a AAAA phenomenon.

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:35 PM) What longer term plan? Trading four players for one year of Jeff Samardzija in the offseason doesn't exactly scream long term plan. None of those guys were in our long term plan.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:05 PM) That is what we are supposed to do though. Just like titles of threads get updated to reflect changes in news status (e.g., trade from rumor to fact). And that is what is being done. The problem is that it keeps generating more and more new ones to try to keep up instead of it all being together.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) I started the thread well after it was buried in there. I can't tell you how many threads have been started, cleaned up, combined, and deleted in the last few days because of no catch alls. I am guessing you aren't seeing half of them then.

Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka 19m19 minutes ago How crazy has #WhiteSox 7-game win streak been? Last 7 games: 9-run games: 4 15-hit games: 3 First 92 games: 9-run games: 3 15-hit games: 3

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) Buried in 6 pages of discussion on Justin sellers, news broke on cespedes, but you would have little idea. You're in the right here. Except that it has its own thread. Actually it had 3 at one point.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) They bought a lot of shiney new things this offseason and it didn't help with attendance. Consistant winning over a period of time is how you turn this thing around. That requires a rich farm system to use to replenish and to use for trade chits. Going for short term contracts to win now is not a strategic play. This is chess versus checkers here. Attendance is up this year, very directly because of those buys. The Sox see it as an opportunity to try to keep people showing up, versus the possiblity of losing them for another year, two years, five years, etc. All you have to do is see all of the posts about how many post seasons in how many years to know that this is very directly why the Sox are looking to buy when they have the chance. They don't have a patient fan base, and can't afford to wait like the north side can.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) I don't think we should burn anything for it. If it went bad move Jeff, it was like this stay put. We are still in a retooling part of the process. Burning this down for a lottery ticket is stupid. They pretty much are forced into it because of the need to give a shiney thing to the fan base in order to get them to show up. Even if it isn't best long term, they have to take the chance while they can to try to get people to keep showing up.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) Trade winds forum? Not really. We try to put anything that is relevant on the front page.

Dan Hirsch ‏@DanHirsch 58m58 minutes ago 2nd Half @baseball_ref WAR: J Kang 1.7 J Votto 1.6 C Gonzalez 1.2 S Gray 1.2 E Hosmer 1.2 S Kazmir 1.2 M Brantley 1.2 C Sanchez 1.2

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 25s25 seconds ago Have heard chisox are on upton and cespedes now. Things have really turned around for south siders

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:39 PM) I know you were kidding, but that SoxNet account mentioned that too for some reason. Just because player so and so isn't in a lineup in late July, way too many people feel a need to make it out to mean something other than most baseball players don't play 162 games a year. It is probably nothing. But it can't hurt to pay attention to those sorts of details.

I don't think the Cubs would deal him cheap enough to justify the risk in my mind.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) There's no denying that Frazier would be magnificent for his performance and contract, but the price would likely be very, very high. Considering he has a $4.5 million deal this year, $7.5 million next, and still more control after that, yes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Todd Frazier isn't in the Reds lineup tonight, so I assume he'll be playing for the WSox tomorrow. Now that would be an incredible fit.