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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:56 PM) I never get the complaints about the hall of fame voting process. At the end of the day, it's BY FAR the most prestigious and selective hall of fame. The voting has kept it that way. Complain all you want but it's worked. The steroid era, and lack of direction from the HOF associated with it, has really f***ed things up. There is this giant block of players right now with suspicions over there head, there is no clear guidance on how to handle them. Honestly after seeing how poorly Selig handled this era, it is kind of fitting to see the HOF process get blown up as a fitting annual black eye to the biggest disaster during his tenure.

QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:20 AM) If Shark stays then here is what I would do. Also, I would not be mad if White Sox traded him for a quality return if they feel they can't win a wild card. 1. Put Danks into the pen. Bring up Erik Johnson. If you go for it you should bring up your best players. EJ is probably an upgrade over Danks at this point. They should not DFA Danks just in case Johnson has a similar problem adjusting like 2014. 2. I would do this trade. Spencer Adams, Montas and Garcia for Cargo. I know most people think this is a ton but they also overvalue their own prospects as well. Montas is probably a future closer. It remains to be seen if he will develop the command to pitch in the majors. Adams is the hard piece to let go as he could be a future number 2 in a rotation. That future still is a ways off and things can happen in the few years. The truth is you have 3 pitchers who you plan to have till 2019. If the plan is to sign Shark long term than that leaves one rotation spot. The White Sox would figure to put both Fullmer and Johnson ahead of Montas or Spencer at this point. I would miss Spencer but I just don't see them doing a deal without him in it. Gonzalez would give the Sox something that have not had in awhile which is a left handed bat that can be in the middle of the order. The fact is this team still has a lack of quality position players both on the current roster and minor leagues. 3. I love Carlos Sanchez as I think he really does give you a major league at bat. I believe he could hit .300 one day and is a solid defender. I would consider bringing up Micah but only if you saw positive improvement on the defensive end. 4. Just a general comment. This team will not go anywhere unless Alexi improves his play. These two are outdated to be honest. Sanchez has been hitting, and has a 10 game hitting streak. He has a positive WAR on the season (0.4) and a nice dWAR for not having been on the team all season long at 0.6. Over the last month Sanchez has seen his batting average go up 63 points, his slugging go up 152 points, and his OBP go up 99 points. Those numbers look even more amazing if you trace back to Sanchez's lowest parts of the season. Alexei has been hitting recently, and has looked like his old self in the field, probably for at least a month now. To put it another way, his dWAR which had bottomed out at -1.5, is now at a positive 0.3. That means he has had a 1.8 dWAR over a relatively short period of time. That 1.8 number would match his defensive seasons of 2013 and 2014, combined. He has even pushed his overall WAR to a positive 0.1 for the entire season.

Jennings has had one outing where he gave up 30% of the runs he has given up this year. For the most part he has been serviceable as the 6th or 7th man in the pen. As Jones advances, there is a decent change we won't see Jennings anymore.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) LOL - what in the Sam h-e-double-toothpick are you talking about! Honestly, in your fervor to superficially bash the fans every chance you get, you seem to lose the ability to process what people post around here. I've never once reached back to 1960 to find a reason for why a Sox fan today might not tune into or attend a game of the 2015 team. The performance of this year's team has given them ample reason to stay away. When I bring up Reinsdorf's horrendous record as owner of the Sox during these past 35 years that have very little to show in terms of achievement, and even worse (as if possible, but it is!), the combined records of the Veeck/Allyn ownerships dating back to 1960, it's to explain why we don't have the robust fan base today one would expect a large market team to have. The putrid results of the last 55 years, including the 35 years of the most recent owner, have been less than desirable. Unless I'm wrong about that, SS2K. Is my assessment of the Reinsdorf years wrong, or that of the past 55 years? Because if I am wrong, please! Explain to me the error of my ways - provided your explanation doesn't include a misguided and inaccurate blaming of the fans. That dog won't hunt. QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) The only thing feeble here is your reading and comprehension capabilities. I have never said, NOT ONCE, that what happened in the year 1960 is having an impact on the year 2015. When I bring 1960 up in any context, it is to state that it's the starting point of a very poor 55 YEAR RUN for our franchise, a run where we've only made it to the postseason five times. I am commenting on a period of time and not one year. It supports the greater narrative as to why the Sox have struggled with attention for the past half century. Every post I've made on this topic has been crystal clear on this point. For you to continually twist my words and regurgitate a wholly inaccurate version of what I said is really unfortunate and quite sad on your part. Yes, every post you have made has been very clear. Fans aren't going to games today because we didn't go to the enough playoffs in the 1960's.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) I'm calling the unprecedented 75 page game thread tonight. That equates to a 10-1 Boston win, with about 4 errors.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 2m2 minutes ago Ventura on starting Bonifacio, Beckham. "You have to keep those guys fresh and get them in there. Today [vs lefty] is a good day to do that"

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) Yes they can stand pat. And it's probably the right move. They have a chance, but it's small and it's for a 1 game wildcard. That's not enough to "go for it" but it is enough to keep Shark and take the comp pick v. the returns. Unless the returns are great, I tend to follow this line of thought. From all talk, big returns are for hitters, or pitchers with longer control. We are dealing neither. Unless the return is greater than what we can gain from say the #30 pick in the draft (including the chance at going underslot to bring in more players later) you don't make a deal.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 03:20 PM) I was just thinking it had been one post I wrote that you didn't bother to respond to with some pithy little comment. It's annoying and detracts from any real conversation. You're Skip Bayless level trolling me. Seriously, do I need to re-register under a new name so that you don't feel the need to quote and respond with your "I think the opposite" response to literally every single one of my posts that you read? Of all the things written on here you think "butt buddy" is worthy of pointing out? You need to seriously relax on my posts. In fact, I've tried to ignore you so I don't have to deal with it but you can't ignore admins. Go figure. How hard would it have been, if the post really offended you, to PM me and take it down? But that's not your style I guess you'd rather just fling s*** or take things out of context. I'd much rather you just didn't post unnecessary gay jokes. If you felt it was OK to publicly post, then yes, I needed to point it out. It wouldn't really matter what screen name you used, if someone else had posted the term "butt buddy" they would have gotten the same response. Terms like that demean anything intelligent that could have been said, and pretty much invalidates it. It has long been Soxtalk policy to not be a place that allows a few to demean entire groups of people just because a few might happen to look down on them. If that is too difficult, you are in the wrong place.

It would be interesting to talk to Guerrero of the Dodgers and see if a trade were executed, if you could get him to wave his free agency/release clause in his contract in exchange for a reasonable assurance of playing time.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) I like Hector. I like Eaton. Eaton was better last year, Hector this year. Eaton makes more sense for a team carrying Sale, Quintana and Rodon. It worked out for everyone that wasn't the D-Backs. Hector has improved for sure, he still looks like a statistical anomoly, but at the same time, you can't argue the results. I do agree with the premise that Adam Eaton is a better fit for the White Sox.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 2m2 minutes ago #WhiteSox for 7/28: Eaton 8, Saladino 5, Abreu 3, Cabrera 7, Garcia 9, Soto 2, Ramirez 6, Bonifacio DH, Beckham 4. Samardzija vs. Miley.

This move has Kenny Williams written all over it. Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 8m8 minutes ago How serious are #Royals as part of haul for Cueto/Zobrist have traded 1st-round, 2d-round pick from '13 (Manaea, Reed), 1st '14 (Finnegan)

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) His defense isn't any worse than Flowers'. But Flowers is Cooper's butt boy so he starts 6 times a week despite being a .5 WAR player over the course of his Sox career. I was thinking that I hadn't seen enough lame gay jokes lately...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Infante's been their 2b for a while now. I don't know that Getz is even int he league any more? Getz retired.

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 2h2 hours ago Now that the #WhiteSox have pulled even with the #Tigers, it’s no lock they trade Jeff Samardzija. Don’t want to punt on this year yet.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) One of Ethier / Crawford will be a White Sox. Only if the Dodgers pick up a ridiculous amount of cash, or John Danks.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) Hey look http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/...l?event=event25 I f***ing hate Boston. No you can't have Chris Sale. Stop asking.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) Wait, how is Hahn not homegrown? Which MLB team did he work for before the Sox? The White Sox hired him off of the street from a sports agency. He had no prior connection to the White Sox before being hired here. Loyalty would have meant someone else internally filling that position. It didn't happen.

Unless we are dumping Danks, no thanks. Even better that it rhymes.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:44 PM) So you have Hahn and Haber, both analytics guys, who aren't homegrown. Not sure how you can have a connection with the team prior to working in baseball... Brooks Boyer's previous employer is... Jerry Reinsdorf. So you have Marco Paddy and Buddy Bell. Then the rest of the organization is mostly made up of guys who played for the Sox or went to a very impressive college. I am not sure you have much of an argument here. Leaving out the Rick Hahn omission, there are more. That was an off the top of my head run.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:18 PM) So in order for an organization to be considered loyal the loyalty has to be absolute? Are you saying there's not a prevalence of loyalty in this organization? Really, what's your point? The loyalty thing is fairly overblown with the White Sox. Yes, they are not quick to fire people. But this isn't even unusual. Anaheim just chose their 10 year term manager over their GM. Look around the organization. Rick Hahn. Marco Paddy. Buddy Bell. Jeremy Haber. Brooks Boyer. All are in top positions in the organization, and came from the "outside", with no prior connections to the team.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:24 PM) Unless Eli Lilly wants to pull a Coca-Cola, Indianapolis is not coming near the olympics. It's meant for world class cities. Indy is an odd place. It is actually set up better for an Olympic bid than Chicago is, and that is coming from someone who can't stand Indianapolis.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) I'd tell the Jays that the package for Quintana starts with Bautista and that ought to end the call rather quickly. I would say Donaldson, but same idea.

George Ofman 45 mins · Twitter · Bluejays interested in either Samardzija or Quintana. Sox stand pat...for now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) And Rabbit has been 100% right with all of his predictions, LOL. Should I bump the thread where I predicted Hector Santiago to be a future stud/starter after his first relief outing with the White Sox? If there had been a Cy Young vote in April, Simon and Greene both would have been up there. Good thing we don't give awards in April (waits for Tuffy Rhodes reference).