southsider2k5

Don't rule it out.

This too. That group was in a downward spiral. They weren't going anywhere.

If you call back to back playoff appearances flimsy for the first time in franchise history, sure.

That Vargus guy is pretty good.

Yeah, Kopech was the top guy in his position by far. He would have been even higher, but for punching a teammate in the minors.

Agreed. He was supposed to be Roger Clemens coming in. Between injuries, covid skipping a year, being generally uncoachable, and failing in both the pen as an as a starter for the Sox, he deserves to be on that Mt Rushmore. I know people get after Eloy and Yoan, but neither of them have ever gone on record for refusing to listen to coaching.

I will say there were a couple of big drops which change the outcomes and statlines a lot.

The rebuild was fine until they fired Ricky and hired Tony.

The sticking point here isn't what he said in spring, it is what he believed in the spring. It is very different if he said they improved, but was privately saying they would look 100 games,versus if he said they improved and spring and is now downplaying it because it looks bad.

There is a light. It is an on coming freight train.

Is this from someone who talks to Getz or is this speculation?

Honestly, fi they are going to get the same kind of return they got for the other guys, cool, don't shop him. Keep him.

Yeah, the interview was a bit weird. They asked him about meeting Crochet, and he said he wasn't there when he went to the locker room. Then steve asked him if they had talked about his off season program, and he said they hadn't in any detail. Then they quit asking him meaningful questions.

A cub fan trolling Soxtalk would also suggest the same.

They spent the entire season trying to get him to through the fastball less. Kopech even talks about how he didn't listen to them for various reasons. When he hits the immaculate inning, he seemed shocked that listening to coaching actually worked and talked about his hadn't been listening to the coaches.

If he really has competition for his services does anyone see Jerry winning a bidding war? Be really interesting to see the move after that.

If we finish with 100 losses the next three years, we will pick 10th after 2 of them.

And with every failed trade return, it puts dependence on the thing that the Sox have done worse than anything in drafting and development.

https://soxmachine.com/2024/09/white-sox-focused-on-foundational-changes-but-house-still-looks-like-rubble/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/09/09/white-sox-getz-collecting-names-in-manager-search

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/09/09/white-sox-getz-collecting-names-in-manager-search

This should be literally the next question asked of Chris, but no one will.

Tulo also put up a 291/.370/.473/.843 with only 71 Ks in 485 PA in his last full MiLB season. If Colson had done that, he'd already be here too.

This goes back to the idea of are Bannister and Katz really as good as they want us to believe? Nastrini, Iriarte, and Schuster are 3 great examples of guys who just did nothing to improve this year.

Ah yes, benching Ramos.