southsider2k5

Agent or family?

Complete trash got more than Clevinger did. It's not that.

Your agenda here has been clear from post 1.

I just looked up his fangraphs. No idea how he was the one guy last year to out perform his FIP and xERA by that much, but it sure makes a solid regression case, and the projections seem to agree.

I can't imagine spending this much time defending Clevinger, down to arguing words for technicalities over FaCts.

Me care. Number bad.

It goes to the Sox only being willing to take hom back if he was being paid less than Martin Maldanado with more recent information than anyone else in baseball. They don't think a lot of him or they would have paid him what his stats say.

So well that they paid all those guys more money earlier in the winter instead of this. He must have been great.

There are plenty of horrible people in baseball that I want the Sox no where near.

You don't get to invalidate anyone's opinions. I don't know why you think this, but I assure you we don't need your help with page moderation.

Shaw easily

Send Brian Shaw out there 140 times.

This team is trash and the entire rotation save maybe one will be replaced in the next season and a half.

Well I am personally thrilled we made you the arbitor of what is relevant or not at Soxtalk.

This move isn't logical. They are blocking a slot where someone is ready and they didn't get an asset which could have even a minimal future value.

Then sign a fucking bat or 6.

They should have thought about that when the market was better than toxic and uncoachable players, you know, like all winter long. Clevinger also does nothing to change the biggest problem on this team

Nobody is buying tickets because of this.

Like they did right to Pillar?

Like I said, burn this b**** to the ground.

Return on investment? So they can win 61 games instead of 57? It's a trash move by a third rate franchise who keeps shooting themselves in the foot. Again if they really thought he was worth a "Return on investment", they would have looked to bring him back months ago for more than barely over minimum. He obviously wasn't someone they placed a real premium on after seeing him for an entire year.

2023 already happened.

This team is awful. There is no need for this unless you can eventually flip him. With all of the trash players who have no problem getting jobs, there is pretty clearly as reason he is still toxic. A better question is what you get from him on a team with no hope anyway. I mean this is a team that gave $15 million to a guy pitching in Korea sooner than offer decent money to this guy. If the Sox were happy they would have given him a decent offer, yet even seeing him every day for a year they were willing to pay Martin Maldanado, John Brebbia, and Erik Fedde more than Clevinger.

Someone tag Brooks, we've got a winning 2024 slogan!

So this dude is going to cost something like 3-4 minimum salaries as a statistically good SP and NO ONE WANTED HIM. That should tell everyone why no one wanted him at the deadline. He was as close to free as you can pretty much get and still no one was interested.