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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) quoted for truth p.s. google has all your answers i like quit f**kin talkin better...ive never heard anyone say quoted for truth in my 22 years of living

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 10:15 AM) QFT i see that a lot on this board, what does it mean?? quit f**kin talkin? QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 01:26 PM) 2B Beckham SS Ramirez CF Harnden DH Quentin 1B Konerko 3B Teahen C Pierzynski RF Rios LF Pierre If wishes really do come true when you blow out the candles, anyway. who???

Its gonna be... 1.Pierre 2.Beckham 3.CQ 4.Paulie 5.Teahen 6.Rios 7.Jones 8.AJ 9.Lexi i think 6 & 7 could be switched if Jones comes on strong...Looks good to me, itd look even better if Lexi once again works on boosting that OBP and can become a good 2 hitter so Beck can be moved into the 3 spot where i think he'll be for a long time. Once/if that happens itd look like.... 1.Pierre 2.Lexi 3.Beckham 4.CQ 5.Teahan 6.PK (i thought about the 5&6 spots for a little bit and i think mark will be solid enough to bat over PK to break the RHs) 7.Rios 8.Jones 9.AJ actually no scratch that after typing it all out i dont want aj or anyone else but lexi in the 9 spot i wanna see rios in the 2 spot just because lexis perfect for the 9 hole so switch rios with lexi, throw lexi in the 9 hole and bump jones and aj up a slot Also wouldnt mind if we truly do go to a Kotsay/jones DH and not just Jones what do you guys think of Kotsay in the 2 spot, i think hes a crafty vet whos goof with the stick and since we wouldnt have jones power in the lineup you move everyone down a spot and the lineup looks more beastly

AVG - Beckham HR - Quentin RBI - Quentin SB - Pierre Wins - PV K's - PV 2B - Beckham closely followed by Teahen 3B - Rios BB - Quentin HBP - Quentin Hits - Beckham Saves - Jenks

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 01:16 PM) FWIW, Teahen's twitter/blog is a hilarious read. link me??? found it and anticipate....

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 03:22 AM) yeah i know... most of that post wasn't really directed at what you said... even though i quoted you. Gawd didn't you get that? I always tend to overshoot everything and thats not just for the white sox and i do agree now the doubles are prob a lil to high but i believe 25 HR wont be stretch, i understand the most hes ever hit was 18 but do know that Kauffman Stadium is one of if not the hardest place to hit a HR so playing half his games in the cell i believe will be a significant boost to his HR totals. I believe he will be great in the 5 spot, I prefer him over AJ all day to break up the RH in the lineup

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 12:08 AM) i feel like Teahen has a chance to be another Tony Graffanino - guy who's... ya know, alright, but who everybody loves. that hits 25 homers and 30+ doubles

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) And they'd still only score 1-2 runs per game. posts like this are starting to erk the hell out of me, i may just leave soxtalk till a couple weeks into the season ya know when were scorin runs and all you people wake up and smell the coffee.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 08:41 PM) It does effect your swing, that's for sure, but major leaguers should be able to make the necessary adjustments to get them by until healthy. Last year I took ground balls off both knees in the exact spot so it squeezed my nerves, and my coach (told me to "run it off" when I couldn't feel my legs knee down) had me in the corner OF's and hitting, and I didn't exactly have a whole lot of trouble adjusting. One thing you do lose a lot of is power, and that's a lot of Fields game. man ive had bath water just chilling in the tub for the last 30 min im out after this response I assume you meant Andruw. I agree with what youre saying and about the power and the article this thread is about shows that this is true as well. Andruw said the range of motion in his knees just got back to normal last year and surprise surprise he hit for a lot more power. Some players just cant get away from their swing and if somethings bothering em to the point where they cant swing like theyre used to theyre gonna be bad. In conclusion Andruw Jones - Comeback Player of the Year

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 08:27 PM) It's possible to shorten your swing with bad knees as far as I'm aware, since I've been having to do that this year. It could be different for the majors, but shouldn't be that much difference. I'm sure you can but it just wouldn't be the same, I know major leaguers should be able to make adjustments when somethings bothering you. Correct me if im wrong but if youre working with limited motion in your knees theres gonna be a ton of miscomfort when you pop your hips and youre prob not gonna be able to do it as fast as your hand are goin and once again correct me if im wrong when you swing it should be one fluid motion (is fluid the correct word?) if your top half is going through before your bottom half youre gonna have problems.....once again im just a sandlot player whos never been coached so that could all be nonsense

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 08:18 PM) Or it's because he's had an incredible amount of wear on his body. He's been in the majors since age 19 because of this he's 1 of only 11 outfielders in the history of the game to log 1500+ games played before the age of 30 and 1 of 2 to reach 1600+ before age 30 (Mel Ott being the only other). That kind of wear takes a tremendous toll on the body, it's no wonder he started to break down physically right around age 30, he's hardly alone in this fact. I'd be surprised if he were ever again play a full injury-free season, this is the #1 reason why extrapolating out an older, part time player's numbers for a full season and using that as some sort of benchmark is completely ludicrous. I see what youre saying and i agree but at the same time hes been able to get himself into what sounds like tremendous shape after seemingly a string of knee injuries and that right there shows he has the drive to play at a high level and still has the strength in him to do so. Just looked up Mel Otts stats and he was still receiving mvp votes up until age 36 and i believe people now a days are stronger than people back then so i dont think its that big a deal.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 07:57 PM) I'm glad he's in shape, but guys have and can lose their baseball hitting ability quickly. I think you have to wait for Jones to outperform Konerko before you should worry about how Ozzie handles it. It really is a longshot it will come to that. If guys are hurt for 3 years straight, there's a good chance they won't make it through season 4 without getting hurt. Jones is going to be eating different food and exercise and eat on a different schedule than he did during the offseason. I believe we are creatures of habit, and if he falls back into the habits he had before he got in shape, he probably will require a bigger uniform rather quickly. I'm sure Allen Thomas probably hangs out with him. You could be right, but he kept getting hurt because he was out of shape more than likely so there is no reason to believe now that he is in shape that he'll get hurt or at least hurt in the same way that he has been getting hurt which has been his knees. I know I'm a big active guy and running around takes a toll on my knees and if you resort back to my post about hitting i believe youre knees play a big part.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) Wasn't he playing for a contract his last year in Atlanta? Wasn't he playing for a contract last season? How many guys his age, and there has always been debate whether his listed age is accurate , come back to his previous levels after 3 bad years? Well he was out of shape and/or had knee problems those 3 years, reports are he looks like he did his rookie year (not just from people in the white sox org so its not smoke and mirrors) and he said his knee was better at the beginning of last season so it looks like the problems hes had the previous 3 years where he was no good are done for. Unless he was juicing the whole time he was in ATL, guys that good just dont forget how to hit when theyre healthy and are hungry.....i dont know if my previous post made any sense but to me it does and i think if hes in shape the next convo we'll be having is will Ozzie have the guts to move PK to the 6 hole because Andruw is out performing him and will be moved to the 4 hole.

QUOTE (G&T @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) His defense was bad, but that's not why he's gone. And it wasn't "drive." It was inability to shorten his swing. Perhaps because his knees were bad, you cant really shorten your swing if your knees are limited in motion and not going as fast as your hands and if your hands are goin faster than your legs its gonna result in an ugly ugly swing and a low .200s batting average. if his knees are healthy and hes in shape he should be able to get a shorter more compact swing. just my two cents, ive never played any kind of ball other than pick up games but i am a sandlot legend

with jones apparently already in camp im wondering when we'll start getting some pictures in

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 10:14 PM) Don't we have someone in the bullpen? yup we got a couple of em

after reading the article i just posted im gonna change my answer to stand pat. I think Andruw Jones is hungry and thats not a fat joke

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rtnerId=rss_cws I quoted that because he was better in 09 after he apparently got full range of motion back in his knee but he was still out of shape so if he truly if in the best shape of his career or whatever whats to say this guy doesnt have a bounce back year. Has there been any pictures of him since hes said he was in the best shape of his life or whatever was said?

I still think the Sox are better than the Tigers but I'm not sure they're better than the Twins.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 06:26 PM) I dont get the whole thing where you're ready to shell out $6M with deferments for LH power...and then turn around later and say "no we didnt have a hole to fill." And they'll basically say that if they stand pat. I actually dont want power. I want someone who is going to hit for a decent OBP. That to me is the scary part. We will hit them out of the park. Sadly Damon would have fit both bills. Blaylock wont, but then again I'm convinced we'd just be getting a bench guy anyway if anything. Im with you there, i want someone for the 2 hole so we can move Beckham to the 3 spot.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) Personally, I think we may undervalue Beckham's power. He'll grow into it, he's still very young. after hearing him being compared to Manny by a knowledgeable Bobby Valentine i think you may be right. QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 06:15 PM) It's amazing how overrated RBI is. How so??? you cant win a game without driving in runs.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 02:58 PM) Yeah, that's true. But I feel that Utley is so much better than Beckham, Kinsler, and Pedroia, that if he continues his type of production for around 4 more years, he should probably be on the list. 4 years isnt a decade though. I think Beckham is going to be some kind of special, I always thought that everyone on here was over hyping him because well this is a sox message board but in the last 2 days ive heard him compared to manny ramirez and said to be the player of the decade at 2b so me thinks maybe we are under hyping this kid. I wouldnt be surprised if he put up .300/.380 250-300 HR 1000+ RBI (depending on how good the team around him is) over the next decade and i pray hes a lifetime south sider. Mauer and Beckham battles in the AL C will be fun to watch.

I dont know if this has been mentioned anywhere but the other day Bobby Valentine compared Becks to Manny Ramirez and said he was going to be the breakout player of the year.....idk if its possible but we may be underestimating sir gordon.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 15, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) The other aspect is that if Morel does come to the Sox while Teahen is here, Teahen has the versatility to be a utility guy for the IF and OF. So either way Teahen is a good type of player to have both now and for the next few years. absolutely, though i think hes gonna be a good ball player here in chicago and will be an everyday player.

Brent Morel seems to think so, i just talked to him n facebook. Brent Morel Clear Chat History Couldn't retrieve chat history 1:39pmAaron so whos better you or dayan? so whos better you or dayan? 1:39pmBrent i dont know.. ive never seen him play 1:42pmAaron sorry for sendin that twice it just kinda happened...and thanks for respondin man i was just kinda bored and figured why not ask him lol....and i believe you're gonna be the better ball player fyi 1:42pmBrent thanks i appreciate it.. i think hes moving to first anyways so we'll see 1:44pmAaron good id like to see ya both up in the bigs in the next couple years 1:44pmBrent ya me too but im headed out man take it easy 1:44pmAaron have a good one bro.