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from Marc Hulet @ fangraphs link

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 09:21 PM) Rizzo with an incredibly dirty collision with Hedges. I'm sure the media won't criticize him for it and Maddon will make a joke about Hedges being hurt video

Link Hansen in at #9 and Dunning in at #12 no love for Adolfo

John Calvagno from notes from the sally released his mid season top 25 list today link Many prospects that have been discussed for various trades make his list including everyone's new favorite Estevan Floria as well as Alec Hansen and Dane Dunning. heres a link to Floria's first look as well as blake rutherford's link

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 02:52 PM) MLB Trade Rumors‏ @mlbtraderumors 25m25 minutes ago J.J. Hardy Diagnosed With Wrist Fracture https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/j-j-hardy-diagnosed-with-wrist-fracture.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...fracture.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...fracture.html … Moving Machado to SS for the short term makes sense since they don't have the prospects to get someone like Cozart but that would put them firmly in the Todd Frazier sweepstakes with the Red Sox and Yankees.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 07:51 AM) Return for Kahnle? OF Alex Verdugo(52), RHP Walker Buehler(81) & C Keibert Ruiz

I'd be down for something like this Frazier or Rutherford Sheffield Adams or Fowler or Andjuar Florial Id prefer Rutherford over Frazier and Fowler or Andjuar over Adams to be fair though

Snodgress pitching over Guerrero anyone know why he was scratched?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 07:54 AM) Real talk, would you guys accept a Quintana for Frazier, Kraprielian, & Frorial deal? Are you willing to gamble on the 2nd major piece coming off Tommy John surgery? My heart says no, that it's too risky, but I'm not sure we can much better. I'm risk adverse so no. I would pull the trigger on Rutherford, Sheffield & Fowler or Andujar

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 02:02 PM) Put him in center! I'm not against that, his legs and arm play up even more in CF and they can keep Sanchez at 2B and move Leury to a corner or 3B.

He fits age wise with the future window but unless they lock him up he will likely be gone when the Sox start taking over the central. I think at this point we're playing with house money if you can get Carson Kelly + Weaver/Perez/Flaherty, You move him. Pair him up with Swarzak to get some additional value.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) Cafardo mentioned Avi as a possible target for the Cards. If they want to give up C. Kelly and Perez for him, there could be a fit. link?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 12:00 PM) At the same time, here's what Jeff Sullivan said in his FanGraphs chat yesterday: which, yeah, I also completely agree with. Agreed if they could move him to the cubs for say Cease and Candelario and a lotto ticket i would be all about that. Giles being more established brought back the #43 prospect in Appel, #69 in Velasquez, Oberholtzer a spot starter / reliever, a lotto ticket relief arm in Harold Arauz and Thomas Eshelman a 5th starter prospect The astros also got Jonathan Arau who is developing nicely for them.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Spencer Adams is quietly putting together a pretty good season. He's finally striking more guys out. Maybe he can be a 4th starter. I could see him developing into a Jake Westbrook / Jon Garland type.

This is where I have the top 15 in my eyes Moncada Kopech Robert Giolito Lopez Collins Fulmer Burger Hansen Dunning Burdi Adams Guerrero Basabe Adolfo

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) Callis' Early 2018 Mock Lets not even give the braves or anyone else a chance at Beer, in 6 weeks the tank will fully be on.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 12:24 PM) I said Leury, mostly because of two things - 1. He's trimmed his K rate by, like, 10%. That's nuts. 2. He's hitting for pretty decent power for a little guy. Neither of these things seemed even remotely probable at the start of the season. Whereas Avi harnessing some of his pull power seemed like it SHOULD happen, at some point, just maybe not with the Sox. Leury pulling his best Angel Pagan impression has to be the most surprising performance, people always held out hope that Avi could deliver and he finally is after dropping a ton of weight, and Yolmer always had a great glove at 2B and a hit tool and finally put it all together but Leury was acquired with little fan fare when Rios was sent to Texas and the fact that he is putting it all together across every facet of the game has to be the most surprising performance.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) I'm not sure I understand your JD Martinez point. We literally have like two or three positional prospects that are worth a damn that are above A ball and none of those guys are true outfielders. Adding a legit major league ready OF like Frazier makes complete sense. In fact, it should be our #1 goal at the deadline if at all possible. I'd love to see Delmonico and/or Garcia get a shot in LF, but I'm not passing on a blue chip OF prospect to do so. We can find playing time around the field and at DH for those guys if needed. Furthermore, our OF glut right now is in A ball. Next year we could have Robert, Call, Basabe, Fisher, & Adolfo all start in A ball. That's five legit prospects already and does not include fringier but still somewhat interesting guys in Booker & Schnurbusch, 2017 draft picks like Gonzalez, Dedelow, & Destiny, & potentially a Latin guy or two. We are literally bursting at the seems in OF talent at the lower levels. If you're concerned about waves of talent, we need to get some guys that can potentially be ready in 2018 & 2019 when we should have major league playing time available. That's where our gap is and what we should be addressing with our best trade chips. Go after A ball prospects with the secondary pieces. I was speaking more along of the lines of once all the trades are made it behooves the sox to make sure they insulated themselves by having waves of talent instead of just targeting major league ready players like Frazier. As it stands now the sox have 1 outfield spot available as both Garcia's have shown they deserve a long look, if they just target major league ready players and they don't perform immediately they could be lost for nothing similarly to JD Martinez; just look how long it took Avi, Leury, Yolmer and Davidson to deliver on their promise and it'll still be another year before people feel comfortable referring to them as anything more than a hot streak additionally they still have Tilson and W Garcia who should get long looks as well.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Rutherford/Sheffield/Andujar is my dream package. I think Frazier and Torres are off the table due to proximity. Yeah I agree, Torres has been playing 3B extensively at AAA and even with Jacoby locked up for a long time I think the yankees will likely be in a similar situation as the dodgers were with Crawford where he plays as a 20mil a year 4th OF, Frazier is just about ready. I also think with the trades coming up, the sox after this polished draft can afford to be "bold" and target younger players like Rutherford to help reinforce future waves of talent; I would hate to see them lose talent in a similar fashion as the Astros by being forced to move off of JD Martinez and get nothing in return, because top performing prospects are knocking loudly on the door.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/...arisnick-14317/ I think they need to think outside the box and add Jake Marisnick to the package...they get certainty for the next three years in CF and have a premium defender to give confidence to all our young pitchers that will be coming up. He's like the WAR equivalent of Quintana, for one year less of control...and obviously you can trade him in 2020 if you want to put Anderson or Moncada in CF instead. Obviously you'd need Martes back, and a hitting prospect. CF Marisnick LF Moncada RF Garcia 3B Davidson/Burger SS Anderson 2B SANCHEZ 1B Hosmer/FA C Collins DH Abreu That gives the defense five potentially elite defenders...or they could sign Cain as a free agent. Not to mention Collins could be a really good defender as well. Undoubtedly, NONE of these things will occur. Marisnick's defense has been trending down in CF for a while now and he has completely sold out for power as witnessed by his 147 point swing in ISO, his strike out rate and his soft%. If Sanchez really is a 2.5-3 win player and the org feels better moving Moncada off the dirt his + speed & arm would be best served in CF, reducing Marisnick's value even further. I have faith in the white sox to develop Collins' defense as witnessed by the mechanical adjustment they made in his crouch to help with his pop times and the kids work ethic. In an age where shifts have become the norm being strong up the middle is all that really matters. If Collins can be average to slightly above and they stick with Anderson who has shown he can be above average in the past and Sanchez at 2B as well as Moncada in CF they'll be a well above average defensive team even with the corners lacking.

from David Schoenfield link So to be clear, Francis Martes + Franklin Perez + Teoscar Hernandez? why move him if that is the package? The farm provided they sign their first 15 picks is loaded with pitching and still needs more hitting. If Q is going to get moved to the Astros, Yankees or Dodgers for Hahn to say yes this season it would likely have to be for a package like this, he still has 8 starts including tonight to turn it around. Astros: Kyle Tucker + Franklin Perez + Yordan Alvarez or Jonathan Arauz Yankees: Blake Rutherford + Chance Adams + Dustin Fowler or Miguel Andujar Dodgers: Alex Verdugo + Walker Buehler + Yusniel Diaz or Keibert Ruiz

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Has he ever made it 5 innings? yes on 9 out of his 17 starts coming into today for his career he has made it at least 5 IP.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) I dont know what the future holds for Matt as a whitesox player but he hung in there when everyone pretty much had him penciled in as a failed prospect. He has shown he can have himself an extended career and hold some value for some years being a power bat somewhere. at the very least he appears to be a CI RH power bat off the bench, if he can adjust I think we might have a Mark Reynolds clone on our hands.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 02:20 PM) Should Holmberg pique my interest as much as he is? Maybe a poor mans Kenny Rogers a 6th starter / swing man.

soooo can Matt Davidson play against RHP on the regular now? also can't wait till melky and todd are moved.