Dick Allen

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:32 AM) According to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun the Orioles are out on Peavy and covet Bud Norris and Sale. One in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to me the conversation starts with Bundy AND Gausman plus 2 to 3 lottery ticket prospects. Thoughts? You can get a current TJ patient for a future patient. It could come down to the battle of the surgeons.

So will Rienzo be an epic bust or future HOF 12 hours from now?

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 09:58 AM) I think you over think things Starting him is like kicking sand in your trade partners face. You want the team that trades for him to be able to start him ASAP. It's a gesture of good will. OH yeah starting him means you risk injury DUH. PV gets injured you get NOTHING ! SIMPLE FREAKIN CONCEPT. I'd start him. It would be Hahn sending a message that if you want to screw around, you pay the consequences. It cost you at least one Peavy start. It's a message for this deal and future deals. I fully expect him to be an ex-White Sox by gametime however. Don't they have to make a move for Rienzo?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 09:05 AM) Where is Paul Sullivan going? Munchkinland. He's going to represent the Lollipop Guild.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:33 PM) False alarm. Dudes really taking a poop. When he was MIA at USCF i thought he was just waiting in line at a concession stand.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) How the heck do you know what Andre Reinzo looks like well enough to recognize him from a shot in the dugout? It was someone I didn't recognize so I hit the google.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:26 PM) The Sox dugout or the Knights dugout? Sox dugout. When they showed Danks after he was lifted sitting in the dugout, Rienzo or at least a really good double was sitting right next to him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:20 PM) Prospects don't have a risk of injury? Really the Sox should build some glass cases on the concourse and put their best players in there for the fans to look at during games, and just sign a bunch of recently released guys to play, because who cares if they get hurt?

Rienzo appears to be sitting in the dugout.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) What the f*** does that mean? Ozzie hijacked his twitter account.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 06:25 PM) Rienzo called up? People saying this on Twitter. He might be flying to Cleveland just in case. It could be a deal is done. It could be more gamesmanship.

What mixed signals? You either pay a fair price or you don't get the player. The White Sox don't have to trade Peavy. If the offers aren't there you can trade him in the winter or keep him and try to win next year. I don't understand why a price being considered too high is being called mixed signals. I think it is a pretty clear signal.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 03:28 PM) https://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/361945049682022400 Of course he's gone. It makes zero sense to keep him unless he wants to agree to a team friendly extension today.

They do it all the time. They have weekly deals on their website.

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) 2013 and 2014 will likely have the same outcome as 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012. The White Sox are stuck with Alex Rios, whether the Sox and Sox fans like it or not. What value does he have on the trade market? Sure, he isn't a defensive liability, he runs well and can steal bases, he hits for a decent average and can hit a homer every once in a while. But - he doesnt do anything exceedingly well, has a perceived lax attitude and makes a lot of money this season AND next. There are plenty of fringy replacement-level guys that can be had. Ales Rios isnt a difference-maker and at his salary and the Sox reported trade demands, he needs to be. But, he isn't. We're stuck with him. That's what I don't get posters thinking teams would like to have him. Right now, offensively he is 13th in baseball as a RF. Average. Since June 1 he has a .665 OPS. That is what Paul Konerko has put up this year. Plus with perceived motivational issues, why would anyone pick up that contract, let alone give you anything of significance for that opportunity?

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) Why didn't they just replace the Cubs guy with the Gonzo's Sox replacement? You would have to ask them, but probably because they want their senior person on the team more people are interested in.

Confirmed he's going to the Cubs. http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-sports-m...-white-sox-834/

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 01:56 PM) I have no problem holding onto Rios. The best case scenario in a trade is that you get somebody as good as Rios In a few years anyway. Rios basically playing for a contract next year isn't a bad consolation prize.

If you have 4 righties in your rotation, no one thinks twice. Why is it different for 4 lefties?

Peavy gets traded and someone posts no other organization would have received less for him. Crain goes. Lindstrom goes, maybe with Crain or Peavy or maybe in August, but by Sep. 1 he isn't on the White Sox. Ramirez, Rios, Dunn all stay.

Reading the Tribune article, if he choked on a bratwurst during the next homestand, the executors would take over control. I have no idea how many executors he has but I would be surprised if his son who is president of the Bulls isn't the executor or one of them. From the Tribune article, the investors really cannot force or block a sale, JR has all the power. It also is interesting that when board members die or sell their interests, they are not replaced. His son said "it would depend on the day" when asked his thoughts about selling. I think he takes over. The piece did mention that a couple of investors said JR owned about 14% of the team now. JR said that was severly understated and that no investor knows how much he has except him. JR wanted them to keep the Bulls and I would assume because profits are pretty much built in. It's a little tougher in baseball, but if you had the passion and were one of his kids, I think it would be hard not to at least try to run them for a while.

If the return for Downs is any indication, a Cory Rasmus-type is probably what the Sox are looking at. Certainly not a franchise-changing moment. The thing is, it should be a no brainer for a team to give up that type of player risking Crain will be healthy reasonably soon.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:18 PM) Someone mentioned Tim Beckham earlier. I think he's probably more that TB would give up, although TB probably wants to keep Crain away from Oakland, Boston, Detroit, a team that may claim him in August when and if he is healthy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) Joe's info all came from the Guillen family. Yeah, he was the Guillen family clubbie.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) I would hope for that too, but I don't think teams are going to give that up for Crain. Maybe someone with a 98% chance of bust. Another team's Jared Mitchell.