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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) Kenny submitted a list of who he wanted to Arizona. That is a step past Arizona just making an offer. You don't do that unless you are actually willing to move the guy. It would be interesting to see the list, to see if there was actually a chance AZ would say yes. Just about any other team, Reading the article, any other team other than AZ, even if they agree, Paulie probably uses his no trade rights.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 08:24 PM) Looks like Ventura' got a lot of the players respect, that's a good start If he has their respect and the players are held accountable, and he can manage the pitching staff, everyone complaining about this selection will be glad they were wrong.

Can someone please tell me what Robin Ventura could have learned waving guys in from the 3rd base coach's box or holding elbow pads in the first base coach's box or sitting next to a manager telling him what he would do, that he in no way could have picked up all those years he played? What makes Ventura a worse candidate than Martinez or Alomar? Steve Phillips was on the radio and he was talking Dave Martinez. He said he would never hire him as a manager because he thinks he lacks presence. That's his opinion and could be way off, but Martinez has interviewed for a couple of jobs and apparently didn't do so well. No one is a guarantee, but I like Ventura's chances.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) And before anyone says anything, we DO NOT want The Big Hurt as our hitting coach. Trust me. He's not going to be. It will probably be Manto or Laker. If anyone thinks KW will ever have Frank Thomas on his coaching staff, just remember this quote, "the man is an idiot"

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) Yes. Being a manager isn't about X's and O's. Do you not think Robin Ventura has a good grasp of the game of baseball? What's funny is he's crying Ventura isn't qualified, but since he's never worked in a front office and has zero experience, I don't know how he's qualified to say that.

I find it laughable a guy who has been in baseball as long as Robin Ventura has needs to be a bench coach or a first base coach to gain experience. This is baseball, not some guy representing you while on trial for a murder you didn't commit. And besides, anyone who doesn't think he's experienced enough to be a manager, why are you giving anyone your opinions? Using your standards, your opinions are mean nothing to you, why should they matter to anyone else? I find this move genius. I don't see why Robin can't be as good as Dave Martinez, or my pick, Sandy Alomar, or Ozzie Guillen for that matter. It will also probably save a lot of season ticket accounts. We all manage games in our heads while watching. Robin has played for Torborg, Lamont, Valentine, Torre, even Bevington. He knows the difference between good and bad. He'll be well respected, he'll never embarrass the Sox. The only issuea that may take a little time is managing the bullpen, but Cooper should help with that, and I have a hard time seeing him running on to the field to argue with umpires. I really like this, and I wasn't that big of a fan of Robin Ventura the player. I think he has the perfect personality to manage and he's seems like a bright guy.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Not meaning to flame at all, but do the Rays losing to the same team two years in a row and getting faceplanted AT HOME by Texas change anybody's opinion of Maddon and/or Martinez? Texas is good, but what's up with getting smoked at home like that two years in a row? I don't think that woulda played well if it had been the Sox in the playoffs losing to the same team two years in a row and getting eliminated at the Cell. I realize Maddon/Martinez did a nice job rallying past Boston, but quick exits in the playoffs are not ideal. Getting faceplanted at home and on the road did nothing to change your opinion of Ozzie.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) And for good measure... SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman rays owner sternberg allows employees to talk to other teams about jobs. but if its redsox/maddon, open policy may close. I thought we were taking about Martinez, not Maddon? Martinez is a coach, Maddon is a manager.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) Apparently your google doesn't work? http://i.tsn.ca/mlb/teams/story/?id=337376...ame=mlb-dodgers OK, you win, go buy yourself a Slurpee. The Rays won't let Martinez interview with Boston.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:50 PM) If you don't want to have the discussion, just walk away, don't make something up. It has been speculated by national writers that his could happen. If you don't believe me, go check twitter. I haven't made anything up. When has a team denied permission? Just give me one time. If Martinez wants to interview with Boston and they want to talk to him, no one is going to stand in his way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:35 PM) Do you really see Boston and the White Sox as the same thing? Ok. Really as an administrator you should be above board, this obvious attempt to start a silly argument shouldn't happen. Why would they let him interview with Toronto? Same division, same number of games. And if he's Joe Maddon II they will be in the hunt, correct? If the White Sox want him, he won't want to go up against Maddon 18 times so the White Sox will have the advantage, but a manager gig is a manager gig and no team is going to stop a coach from that. They might offer him beginner manager money to stay, not Tampa, but maybe the Yankees, but it doesn't happen. Name one time a team denied permission for a coach to interview for a managerial position. You will not have an answer. Again. From the Tribune: A Rays source said they would be very pleased if Martinez received a managerial job and that they would be prepared to replace him if he does.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) I don't see denying the potential of improving your rivals as bad business practice. I see it as smart business. Then they really shouldn't let Martinez interview with any team because they all are rivals even the White Sox. You're just trying to start an argument. I won't take the bait.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:17 PM) Why would you? Because its bad practice to stop someone from getting a better job. If you didn't let him interview for a promotion and the Boston job, you could have A. A disgruntled employee and B. A reputation that may make it hard for you in the future to bring in quality people who have managerial asparations. If you think as highly of Martinez as Maddon and the rest of the organization apparently do, if he has possibly a better opportunity, wouldn't you want him to at least explore it? Does anyone even know the last time a team was denied permission from a team to interview a coach for a managerial gig? Coaching gig to coaching gig, I could understand, but not a bump up.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) I can't see Tampa letting Boston talk to Davey. Why not? He interviewed with Toronto last year, and Toronto hired a Boston coach. Alomar was the runner up.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) Yup, he's there on a soccer scholarship. Is he on the Twitter?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) Every writer who comments on the subject has Martinez as the #1 candidate on the Sox's short list of potential managers, you act as though the Martinez excitement/interest has been manufactured by the fans. Some of it has. He's never managed, yet some are already "worried" about losing him. If the Sox offered him the job, and Boston offered him the job, if he really is as tight with Maddon as reported, he'd take the White Sox job. He wouldn't want to be directly competing and facing Maddon 18 times a year if he had an opportunity elsewhere. Plus they just got rid of a guy who brought them 2 championships in his 8 years, and the GM may leave. I think anyone would think long and hard about working in Boston if they have other options. The expectations are probably unrealistic at this point. If you win, you were supposed to, if you don't, you're a dope. There's expectations with the White Sox, but not nearly that level.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 07:33 PM) Just when you thought things couldn't get weirder. Per Bill Zwecker today: That would really add insult to injury. Get rid of one classless clown (Ozzie), bring in an even more classless clown. I know North wanted to be a color commentator. But I really think that is out of the question. It may be some sort of White Sox programming on CSN. That's the only thing I can think of. I wonder how long until it would be cancelled? The guy is poison in this town. Stay away JR unless you want to alienate the rest of your fanbase.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) Well Keystone is the best of the best so that makes sense. It only tastes expensive.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 04:43 PM) Anyone got details? Stone said if you can't clothe your wife making $2 million a year, its time to find a new wife. If that was a shot at anyone, it was at Ozzie's ridiculous cry for more money. And if Ozzie didn't quit, why isn't JR still paying him his guarantee for next year? I'm glad the Guillens are Miami's probem now. Ozney's tweet is showing why he really didn't want to go to college. Its amazing they let him graduate HS. Here's a scary thought, maybe Oney is the smart one.

I don't mind these guys. The pitcher throws 100. He could be Bobby Jenks, he could be Andy Sisco. The infielder had a bad year, but seems like a guy who will play in the big leagues. All that for a guy who quit. So basically for nothing. Not bad.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 07:09 PM) He wants to play another season.. This is the link in Spanish. http://laverdad.com/detnotic.php?CodNotic=70419 I like Omar, but he's 44 or 45 years old, made a couple of million and at this point is lucky to be on a roster. I really can't fault Ozzie or the Sox for his playing time. You still should have to earn it. Who was he going to take time from? Morel? He has to play. Ramirez? Alexei is clearly a better player than Omar right now? Beckham? Beckham needs to play as well, and as bad as he hit, he still is probably a better offensive player than Omar at this point, and is probably better defensively.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) That's one heckuvan endorsement. Exactly what does anyone think Joe Maddon would say about his bench coach of the last 4 years? Lou Piniella, a pretty good manager, endorsed Mike Quade. Ozzie would give a ringing endorsement of Joey Cora. I hope Maddon's comments aren't taking as gospel. I won't be upset if KW hires him, but I hope he hires him because of what he says, not Joe Maddon.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 08:23 AM) yes, Ozzie could buy a nice $150,000 in Waukegan or Ford Heights and drive a 4 year old Chevy to to the ball games and never worry about money. Guys making minimum wage think if I was just making $25,000 a year, I'd be happy. Guy making $25,000 wishes he was making $50,000. It just keeps going up from there. Some people are happy just to be able to give their kids a 10 year old Toyota to drive, but wish they could give them something a little nicer. When you are making $2 mil its remarkably easy to spend it and want to have $3 million. If you're making $2 million a year and spending it all, you deserve what's next. He wants a $2 million boat. Enough said.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) That's short sighted. Some have lost it on investments, bad accountants. It's more difficult for an individual to keep track of that kind of money. Do you think they keep it in a checking account and wait for their daily email from Chase? If you make $2 million a year like Ozzie was making, you can live a pretty comforable life without going broke. There are no excuses for any of these athletes who have gone broke other than total stupidity. Steve Stone was on television the other day and he said about Ozzie and money was this, "if bringing home $2 million a year isn't enough for your wife to go shopping, its time to find a new wife".

If the Sox hired Martinez, do you think he'd bring in Sandberg to be the bench coach?