Dick Allen

And he said it’s been torn for years, which means there is probably no way his contract is insured.

Not the Dodgers. But it doesn’t hurt to ask,

So by deduction you have Burger, Eloy, maybe Hendriks, maybe Sheets and a few minor leaguers as guys Hahn might trade to fill holes. we know he isn’t trading Vaughn or TA. Moncada and Yaz will get him nothing, I can’t imagine he would get rid of Robert, for a team that needs home runs, letting Eloy go would be risky. Plus he’s a pretty popular teammate.

The other issue is he has a 5 team no trade list. They usually get to update these lists yearly, I have no idea if that is the case here, but usually the teams are the ones most likely to trade for him. He doesn’t have to put the Pirates on the list. Guys with huge contracts don’t have to put the White Sox on their limited list because they aren’t trading for him anyway. There’s probably a good chance most of the teams we would think want him are on the list, and in reality he may have no problem going there, but they probably would have to do something for him to waive. just keep him and start acting like a team pursuing multiple championships.

Either he is trying to get someone to drop their price and sign quickly or he is being straight. The fact that he would try to sell Gavin Sheets as an OF blows me away, and if it was meant to scare anyone into signing, how low level must he be if Gavin Sheets is being thrown out there to scare him?

His contract is bad if 2022 is what he is. Hes one year removed from a 4 WAR season. I still think he can be that or even a lot better. There will be more accountability and perhaps he had a wake up call.

Still think it was a good trade, but letting the same people lead you out of a hot mess they got you in usually isn’t a great idea.

I don’t think anyone wanting to win wants the Sox to trade Hendriks. But if they need the money, that’s on JR. I will say for as great as Liam has been, if they never signed him and just had an average closer the last 2 seasons, there is no doubt in my mind they still win the division in 2021 and lose in the 1st round of the playoffs and miss the playoffs in 2022. So really his performance never got to the point where it really mattered, like a tight must win playoff game. I’m glad they signed him. I think he’s awesome in so many ways.

The list of reasons to move on from the guy is a lot longer than the list of reasons to keep him. He’s bright, no question. Seems like a nice person. But he’s just a bad GM, and if JR or KW conclude he’s actually a good GM who has been put in an impossible situation, why are they making the situation appear more impossible? It’s so messed up.

Wellington Castillo. Why? Jay and Alonzo. Why? One that really chapped my ass, actually performed well but it was stupid. They pick up Joakim Soria and $8 million of his salary, to try to flip him at the deadline, because I’m guessing Chapman to the Cubs previously. Well Soria was better for the Sox than anyone could have expected, but theY were in the middle of a rebuild, why not see if you can find anyone in your system capable of being a closer. It may save you some money in the long run and failing wasn’t costing you anything. So Soria gets flipped for a minor league arm no longer in baseball and the Sox paid 5 or 6 million for this honor. Did everyone but Hahn know what Velasquez was a year ago? And I get the “3 million, 8 million is nothing “ crowd but it sure would be nice to have some of it available now.

I was watching MLBN last night and Dan ODowd was going over their payroll, anticipating a couple more additions, saying it would probably be around $340 million plus close to a $100 million tax.

The Sox aren’t signing Nimmo.

So the White Sox would have had zero money to spend if Pollock did the smart money thing and exercised his option. That’s building a sustained winner right there. And the Gavin Sheets is an Of talk just shows you how committed they are to putting a championship roster on the field. if you think about it, JRs refusal to try to dominate the division is so sad. If, instead of weaseling out last winter, they actual signed someone they wanted everyone to know they pursued, Cleveland probably trades Ramirez. The Sox play down to their competition. I still think they can win the division, but why just get by? You expect your employees to do their best every day. It’s time JR starts doing his best every day, or let someone who will take over.

Probably right, because it would be one of the dumber moves he can make.

So the argument would be he won’t get hurt because he already was hurt? Shoulder and elbow. That’s crazy.

He did make great trades for Sale, Q, and Eaton. But I do agree he has proven he shouldn’t be a MLB GM.

Clevinger is the highest profile FA the Sox will sign this off-season.

2 years of control at less than it will cost for 1 year of the free agent SS, not to mention the premium you have to pay at the back end to actually sign them. TA wasn’t very good in 2022 but still put up a 2.0 WAR in 79 games. If Montgomery was a year more developed I would entertain all offers for TA, and they would be a lot more significant than you suggest. But they can’t trade TA now. They have no replacement.

If he was a free agent, he could get more than he has left, and teams would have no problem losing the draft pick.

There you have it. Rick is hoping another teams GM will have an idea how he can help make Ricks team better.

Exactly.

I read a tweet a guy said he was laughing at a kid because the kid still believed In Santa Claus. Then he realized he was a Sox fan who still believed the Sox would sign a top tier FA, and realized they were no different.

I agree it’s sends an awful message, but we already know the message. The White Sox will not ever try to win at all costs. They will come up with some BS like ReyLo they never saw coming and he’s a closer…but we all know it’s money. Their sustained winning, multiple championships style never really came to be. Really lasted between 2020-2021 but not fully due to the pandemic. Looks like now they will bag it and go back to business as usual and hope one season everything can go right.

I posted a month or so ago, I love everything about the guy. He’s been great, but, if they are cutting payroll, it makes sense for a few reasons. A. As great as he’s been , the Sox would have had the same playoff result both years he has been here. B. I think his elbow is a concern. C. The pitch clock is going to give him less recovery time, and I think may really affect him.

The White Sox made it seem like if fans waited through a rebuild the days of White Sox half assing would be over and the team would spend like a team in search of multiple championships. But if you bought it, the joke is on you. Nothing has changed, and nothing ever will. Sure, the payroll is a bit higher, but, due to many front office mistakes, not high enough to win one championship unless everything goes right, and how can anyone not willing to get into luxury tax territory think they will ever have a reasonable shot at multiple championships?