Dick Allen

QUOTE(BearSox @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) was... He got roughed up today thanks to no help from his defense and offense. Unless he had defenders stationed in the bleachers, they weren't going to help him much.

QUOTE(GreenSox @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 07:20 PM) Exactly zero patience with young players; so he throws him into left, which is a longshot for him. In 4 years of managing this club, Ozzie still hasn't turned a single young player into a regular. Not a single hitter has signficantly improved under this coaching staff. Fields did play LF in winter ball. They might as well see if he can play out there. I like that this indicates Crede will be tendered. I'm sure the Sox have info on his recovery. If Crede's healthy, he's a pretty good player. Its better to see if Fields can play LF in games that really don't matter, instead of just throwing him into the fire. He doesn't need to be a gold glover out there, just competent, and if the Sox could acquire Torii Hunter, which is a longshot in my mind, it would even make it easier for him. If he can't play LF, maybe see what he can do at 2B next spring, especially if the Sox go with Richar. He and Richar could platoon, and he could occassionally spell Crede at 3rd.

They were interviewing Walker during the game yesterday and he talked about how the approach was to take Wakefield the other way, so everyone who says he preaches swinging hard and trying to pull the ball into the seats is just wrong. The only way to fix this offense is to sprinkle a few new hitters into it. Today, 5 batters in a row, Uribe, Richar, Gonzalez, Owens, Fields. That's just brutal. The highest batting average among the 5 is .242. You get through Thome, Konerko, AJ, and Dye, you have almost a 2 inning breather.

I wish I had JR as a teacher in High School. I would have been accepted at Harvard easy.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 06:15 PM) My new prediction is Contreras and a decent spec get traded for Tejada, and it happens relatively early in the off-season. That would be a hard sell on their rapidly declining fan base. Trading Tejada for an OLDER player who was awful in 2007, wouldn't fly with me if I was an Oriole fan. And I look at the White Sox prospects and see how they struggle and it would piss me off even more. No way on that trade.

The White Sox as an organization should be embarrassed.

Anyone want to bet that if the Sox do go after Hunter he will eventually sign elsewhere and the Sox will say they were right there with the money it just came down to a no trade clause?

Richar has an OBP of .300 right now. His batting average is .200. Obviously, both of these should go up a bit, but I don't know how his working a count makes him a lock to be an exceptional hitter. Mark Johnson used to work a count pretty well and they really should have DH'd for him and let the pitcher hit. Richar has made some nice plays defensively, but as the scouting reports suggest, has flubbed some easier ones. He is 1 for 3 in steal attempts. I still don't know what to make of him. He may be good, he may be DeAngelo Jimenez. If he's already earned a starting job on the 2008 White Sox based on his little trial run so far, this team will not be a championship contender. His OBP is .010 higher than Brian Anderson's last season, and we have people penciling him in to lead off. That's a little too optimistic at this point IMO.

QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:47 PM) "Chris Singleton pulls out a knife, jabs me in the heart. That's what you do when you kill a man with a knife; you stab him in the heart. Line shot foul by Erstad. Bleeding on the mic now. That's what happens when you have a knife wound in your heart; you bleed on the mic. Erstad goes down swinging. Feeling faint now. That's what happens when the blood drains from your body; you feel faint. Here's Andy Gonzalez. Pretty much dead now, Chris Singleton. Good night, everyone. Go crazy." This is a classic.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:41 PM) Singleton isn't bored, he has to listen to Farmer all day. Personally, I would have taken my life long ago if I had to do that. Or Farmer's. I don't think a jury of his peers would convict Singleton if he took out Farmio

At least KW got Mike Myers. He's impressive.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) So then why did Buehrle and Dye re-sign, for arguably below market value. Both have said a large reason they re-up'd was based on what Williams told them about next year's plan. I could see Williams and Ozzie blowing smoke up the fans ass, but not Mark and JD. Telling him what he wants to do, and actually getting it done are 2 different things. I would imagine after last year, if these guys were free agents to be then, he would have told them he was going after a real CF. He would have told them about the big plan to revamp the bullpen. KW needs to be held accountable and should be on a short leash at the very least.

QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:21 PM) "Fathom, Kenny Willams here. What you have to understand is that the market will correct itself at some point. In the meantime, we've locked up some fine power arms who looked great in Mexico this winter." Nobody else in baseball saw what KW saw in all the stiffs he acquired for the bullpen. He was bragging about it. Now he's hiding behind the "nobody could see us being this bad". On one hand he likes to mention how much smarter he is, but when it doesn't work out, all of a sudden those other opinions which used to mean nothing, are like gospel.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:19 PM) Personally, I think all this talk about being spenders this offseason is bulls***. They'll act like they went after people, and then b**** about the contracts being too much and bad for business. I can't wait to see who's fired next, as we know it will be another scapegoat. I'll be shocked if they actually up the payroll. I agree it will be someone like Duane Shaeffer who will get canned, while the decision makers who screwed up again will live off 2005 for the rest of their careers.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2007 -> 05:15 PM) They're so far away from competing, it's scary. Assuming they trade Garland this offseason, that leaves you with two starters who you can even count on to have an ERA south of 5.50 next year. You have a horrible bullpen besides Bobby Jenks. Then, you have just no depth on offense. You need a new LF/CF/SS, and have to get better reserves. So basically.....unless they're willing to go on a spending spree (which won't happen with all the big contracts we have tied up right now), this team is looking at a ton of holes again next year. When Hawk who obviously has some inside, is trying to sell the public on stiffs like Gonzalez and Owens, you can only cringe.

This organization should be embarrassed they cannot compete at all. Its about time the "shock" of how horrible they are wears off and heads need to roll, from every level. KW should look at the bullpen he dislocated his shoulder patting himself on the back for and resign right now.

They should give the people at the park sticking this one out a shot at some souveniers. Bring in Floyd.

I'm pretty sure AJ calls the games. He's looking in the dugout not for pitches but for pitchouts, pickoffs and they also tell the young pitchers when to throw over to first base.

Thome is a DH only right now. It limits his market. You won't be getting back nearly what he can give you if you trade him. I don't know why giving up the guy who gets on base more often than anyone else on your roster and homers more often per at bat than anyone on your roster for some young unproven guys, when you are still trying to win is such a great idea anyway.

Supposedly AJ is the most pissed off at the Sox lack of success. I'm not going to mention game calling because we really don't know who is calling pitches and the bottom line is the pitcher is the one who calls the game. The catcher suggests pitches. AJ has probably as good of record catching games as anyone. Lets not deflect the blame onto everyone but the one it should be blamed on, the pitcher.

They said Edgar Martinez' bat speed was declining for about 10 years. They also said Rowand's bat speed was pathetic in spring training. When Thome goes into a slump you can throw BP fastballs by him. Its nothing new. He's starting to see the ball a little better now. He's nowhere near done yet.

This was obvious from the get go. Just like the "rainout" when the Yankees were in town and there was hardly drizzle this one gets called right about the time beer sales would have stopped if the game had started on time. At least it rained this time. Waiting for 2 hours was ridiculous.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Aug 23, 2007 -> 09:06 AM) Two games so far with Myers and no success. However, maybe he just needs time to get back in shape? I think he's showing why the Yankees released him and no contending teams desperate for relievers picked him up.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 06:39 PM) But this is basically what the Sox are doing, which is why I laugh when people get so upset about the move. You say the innings pitchers throw now mean NOTHING for 2008, so then why are you so concerned about the innings Myers is said to be taking away from Logan,Thornton and others? They don't mean anything, right? This signing is just a "Pre-Spring Training Invite". If Myers has nothing left, they cut him loose, don't bring him back in 2008. He shows he has something left in the tank, you pick up the option, and see what he brings for 2008. Then you are on the hook for his guarantee no matter what he shows you in the spring. Make him make the team next year. Myers has experience, the Sox have plenty of guys who could use a little. The big difference is you wouldn't be basing whether or not a guy would be a member of the 2008 White Sox based on their performance like you would be for Myers.