Dick Allen

The White Sox road attendance is woeful as well. Only Oakland and TB are worse road draws. It has been like this for several years which I find interesting because they have had some talent on the team.

That game sucked. Nice first inning. My next highlight was Bill Walton getting on my Red Line train when I was going home. I think they have some Greatful Dead thing going on at Wrigley.

They will play tonight.

I saw a graphic where MLB is on pace to break a record 6 years in a row for ABs that end with a walk or a k. Right now they are at 30%. It has to peak soon. It's becoming a problem. It makes the games longer, and walks and strikeouts are pretty boring to most. They said this during the Red Sox game last night and were talking about millennials and there phones. Then they showed millennial after millennial in the stands paying no attention to the game and watching videos on their phones.

I think he either shattered his kneecap or dislocated his knee.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) I love these logical fallacies. I see them all the time on the Bulls RealGM board. Hey, look, one time a player came out of nowhere to be really good so that must mean this guy that also sucks will become just like that one guy that one time! DA does it constantly here. So does Hawk. If you paid attention, which you don't, you would have noticed that he asked for an example of a player with similar numbers who became a good player. For a guy who critiques posters left and right, maybe you should look at yourself. And I do it constanty? Uh no. more BS from you. I thought you had me on ignore. Now you seem to incorrectly know what I post.

So Melania, who took up cyber bullying as her cause, doesn't find anything wrong with Trump's tweets. She must have got a raise.

Can't throw. Framing is getting bad, and clubhouse cancer. I don't know what value he brings to a rebuilding team other than pointing a finger away from him. The Cubs and Maddon especially, were very worried what his attitude might do to their young players.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) They haven't had a losing record since 2005-2006 and despite that have been able to collect attractive assets with 2nd round picks and good free agent signings into better players. I can't really call issue with their strategy. I'm not going to call out a team for not tanking when they have evolved so much over time while still being able to win. Haha, idiots, you should have traded all your stars and been terrible for 5 years in the hopes you could either be a champion or the exact same place you are now with soem great players but not enough to supplant maybe the greatest collection of talent in 30 years. I'm not saying its wrong, but J4L loves them and he rips on the Bulls who had a very similar run. I will stick with they are the Bulls of the West. They have had some success, but let's not praise them for their past decade and not do the same with the Bulls. One difference I will give you is the Bulls lucked into Rose, the Rockets went out and got Harden. The love of tanking has grown by epic proportions, not just in the NBA but all sports. There still is only one team that can win every year, and you can tank all you want, it doesn't guarantee anything, especially now with guys willing to move to create superteams. But especially in the NBA if you don't have stars, you can't win. You can tank and get Eddy Curry, and Marcus Fizer, and Tyson Chandler, but you still pretty much suck. You have to get lucky and get a Lebron or MJ or be really bad forever. People can jack off all they want over the 76ers roster, but they were so bad for so long, and still, there is no guarantee.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) It's also funny that someone with the temperament and vocabulary of a 3rd grader is calling someone low I.Q. And he keeps mentioning ratings. I wonder how come he ignores his own.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 08:22 AM) The Bulls had Butler, a 27 year old who admitted he wanted to stay with the team, under contract. The Clippers got pieces back from the team the 32 year old CP3 wanted to sign with. The fact it's even a question is likely a problem. That said, it's not very close. I still can't believe the Bulls added the 16th pick and sold a 2nd rounder, though. I think it was Shack who posted there was very little chance the Bulls refusing to give up the 16th pick would have made the T Wolves walk away. I agree. Not that the 16th pick was going to be a solid piece moving forward, but if you are rebuilding, you might as well take as many flyers as you can get. The selling of the second round pick was shameful. They don't need the money and have profits locked in for years. If they would have just admitted it was a money grab, I personally think to pay off the Rondo payout, it would be one thing. But Gar's explanation was just Gar being Gar, thinking the rest of the world is stupid, yet he is the one that looks like he doesn't know the rules.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:17 PM) Rockets org is very good. If they were in east they'd have been in conference finals every year since 2013. First round knockouts suggest they are a bit overrrated. Maybe they do better in the East, but they aren't in the East, and they are well aware of it before they make moves that basically put them in an upgraded version of NBA hell. Maybe Paul is the guy that finally changes that. He is 32 so he probably is about to start declining, but he can decline and still be a top of the line guy for a couple years I would think. Harden had his best season handling the ball. Now you take him off the ball. It will be interesting, but when it comes playoff time, they still need some key Golden State injuries to have any chance at all.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:47 AM) My friend's cousin is coming over from Palestine in August. I wonder if he's lying about being Muslim so he can get in or you're just being deliberately obtuse in calling it that. Are all the changes in European countries' immigration policies Muslim bans as well? Seems like a reasonable take. Trump himself called it a Muslim ban.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 03:34 PM) I acknowledged they haven't won since 1995. But it's not from lack of incompetence or creativity. They've acquired superstars over the years without having to be in the lottery. The Bulls have acquired guys like Ben Wallace and Carlos Boozer. $20 million a year for Ryan Anderson and his 13.5 PER. Nice. Dwight Howard and his Patrick Ewing moves. Great. That's creative if it isn't a Chicago team. Chicago team it's stupidity.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) The Rockets are one of the most underrated franchises in sports and Daryl Morey is one of the most underrated GMs in sports. Yeah, they haven't won it since '95 but man they are not afraid of making a splash and somehow always get guys you don't think they can. Whether it's Charles Barkley to team with Hakeem and Drexler, T-mac in his prime, James Harden for nothing and now an elite PG for role players and a draft pick. They made the conference finals once and the semifinals twice, and either DNQ or lost in the first round of the playoffs ever other year since 1999. Why if the Bulls do that, they actually did exactly the same thing only they made the semis one more time, they are turrible, but the Rockets GM is underrated? Houston is the MJ-less Bulls of the west.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) NYT has hit an all time high of subscribers actually. It is funny Trump likes to mention ratings. Has he seen his own?

Trump promises great, great surprise on health care. He really does think he is on a TV show.

As a 22 year old, Carlton Fisk hit .229 with a .763 OPS in AA. 2 years later he was ROY hitting .293 with a .909 OPS.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 08:33 AM) In the grand scheme of things, $25 million over 6 seasons is not that much of a gamble on a player who has considerable upside. If he becomes a halfway decent starting mlb SS he's easily worth that money No, but it does lock you into him, and it is money that cannot be spent elsewhere especially since when he gets a little more expensive you will be trying to win. For it to be 'worth it" IMO, he is going to have to do better than just meet the average price per WAR. He was at his cheapest. If he isn't putting up 3 or 4 WAR seasons at some point, this extension was unnecessary. He was controlled very cheaply for a long time.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Tim Anderson is making $4 million per year. If he averages 0.5 WAR per year, he'll be worth the money. There was nothing wrong with that extension whatsoever. You will end up eating your words on that one. But if he averaged a 0.5 WAR and they didn't extend him, he would be much cheaper. Hopefully, eventually he will make the extension look astute. Right now it looks like a gift to the Anderson family. You win some, you lose some, but he still has a ton of time to make it look really good.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 07:50 PM) So John and Gar don't know how roster sizes work. They do. But Gar doesn't want to tell you they sold the pick for the cash. I am guessing to pay for the Ro do buyout.

I don't think the scout at the game means much. There really doesn't seem to be a guy on Boston's roster that would be a good match for a trade. The White Sox would most likely get a minor leaguer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 12:24 PM) Unless he's going to absolutely destroy his leg and cost himself 2+ seasons of development next year, then Jared Mitchell is a pretty poor comparison. Mitchell's leg injury had nothing to do with his inability to swing and actually make contact. It's a great theory, but really makes no sense. He was swing and miss before it, and swing and miss after.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Sigh. I don't like that response at all. I think it's one thing to entertain offers for some of the young guys behind closed doors, but why would you publicly say the players you just traded for (or drafted) are available for the right offer? Because it's the truth, and guys understand that. Most of the ones you seem to want to "protect" from this statement have already been traded. If any team is willing to overpay, everyone is available. There are no Mike Trouts currently in the White Sox organization.

Obviously the higher the pick the better your odds, but it all comes down to scouting and luck. Many times your second or third choice turns out better than your first. That piece a couple of weeks ago about the best player chosen in a particular spot was pretty eye popping. The draft is about 50 years old. Chad Billingsley being the best #24 pick of all time. Doesn't really make the 24th pick seem so valuable.