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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Preemptively calling out fans 2 years before free agency for calling sox cheap bastards isn't really that interesting to me. I think White Sox will go after Machado. They will likely lose out, but such is the life of a non dodgers/yankees/red sox fan. Whether or not Machado is worth it? Revenue is skyrocketing and every team is worth over a billion. I hope the owners get squeezed for money soon. I'd rather Machado get paid than Tom Ricketts. All I am saying is it is very unlikely the White Sox will sign him, and at this moment, you probably can say that about every team even though one eventually will. Eventually, unless he opts out, all these huge contracts go bad. I'd assume the same thing will happen here. I hope the Sox sign him. But the odds don't favor it at all.
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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 11:14 AM) I remember when the right wing got super upset about Michelle Obama taking a vacation to Europe and how it was costing so many of ARE TAX DOLLARS! He's the jobs President, except when you can spend that money on anything Trump.
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) ISIS was defeated in 30 days... Right? Yes. The Trump plan. He knew more than any General. Believe him. I guess he just asked for a few General's ideas recently just to make them look a little less stupid. Trump is a very compassionate guy. He doesn't want his smarts overshadowing others.
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I am going on Saturday. I always enjoy going to Miller Park. It's always stated the problem with the White Sox stadium situation is the lack of bars and restaurants around the park. Miller Park is the same way. I guess their tailgating tradition sort of trumps that. They have drawn pretty well since moving in there.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) Well yeah, the a rod deal would have happened almost 20 years earlier. "Also keep in mind if many of the team's prospects pan out, they are going to eventually have to be paid as well." Gives you at least 4 years to figure that out. Again, 29 owners will be cheap bastards not interesting in winning when Machado signs his $300 million-$400 million contract. The contract ARod signed was about $100 million more than any other team offered him, and the Rangers got worse despite ARod putting up ridiculous numbers. No one called Tom Hicks cheap. They called him a dumb ass. I bet if you asked him today, he would preferred to have been called cheap. Even ARod was called an asshole for taking that contract. The line was he preferred being paid over winning. Like anyone else would turn down an extra $100 million.
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) How else would you describe them considering they haven't given a free agent more than $68 million? And they clearly haven't been interested in winning as of late. They would've signed Cespedes and Desmond instead of the bargain bin free agents they did if that was the case. Well technically the $68 million was ripped up. But have you seen how little the free agents who have signed 9 figure contracts have made their teams better and title contenders. Their choice in recent years was not to sign these guys and get called cheap, or sign these guys, be on the hook for 9 figures and get called dumb. Did anyone really think the Angels were stupid to sign Pujols when they signed him? They would have been better off having their fanbase call them cheap.
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Take ARods deal and start multiplying. Machado is going to be making $35-40 million a year if not more for a long, long time. To think the White Sox will pay it is most likely a pipedream. And calling them cheap or not interesting in winning if they don't is ridiculous as well. I'm sure they would love to have him. Also keep in mind if many of the team's prospects pan out, they are going to eventually have to be paid as well.
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White Sox Scout Yankees for Potential Q Trade
Dick Allen replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Everyone said Moncada is "untouchable", yet the Sox still acquired him Why should the Sox settle for less than an organization's top prospects for Quintana? If the price were a lesser package, Q would have been traded already That's true. I don't know why the Sox would have to accept a package where the top prospect coming back isn't the other team's top prospect or if not at least their next top 2 or 3. As long as Q is Q and is healthy, some team will eventually cave because the staffs for all these teams will most likely eventually take a hit. -
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) The next president is going to have to do so much work to fix the effects of this horrible administration. It will be an easy campaign though, the entire platform will be "we will fix it" Trump was going to be making all these trade deals with several countries during his first 100 days. Winning deals, because that is what he does. We are going to be sick of winning. Yet he hasn't starting making these deals. And why are there cuts to build a wall Mexico is paying for? Trump is getting it done. Unprecedented success.
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White Sox Scout Yankees for Potential Q Trade
Dick Allen replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:33 AM) Torres and Meadows aren't being moved. The fact that it's March 16th and this still needs to be stated is insane to me. OK. Then trade him to Houston for a package built around Bregman. -
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:15 AM) You know the response: #itsdifferent Which is the same response republicans have for not shutting it down. So we finally found something each party agrees with. It's different. IMO, the premise for the Trump victory wasn't so incorrect. These politicians have to go. It's not about what's best and compromising anymore, its all about party, and getting re-elected. It's too bad there wasn't a more stable, thoughtful "outside" candidate, instead of one who still thinks he hosting a game show.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) We don't "know" that he can play 2B yet either. By all returns he has been pretty awful there this spring. Yeah, 21 year olds making errors the first couple of weeks of spring training means it's time to change positions. The sample size used to show he needs to be moved is microscopic. If you want a rebuild, you better be prepared not only for busts, but for a lot of growing pains with the guys who ultimately won't fail. There is a reason he's at 2B. Taking anything away from performance so far this spring is so funny. But people fall for it every year. Didn't Q have about a 10.00 ERA either last spring or the spring before? Didn't the White Sox lead the world in HRs last spring? How did that work out?
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What I don't understand is if you think he can be a great OF without ever seeing him play there 1 inning, why couldn't you think he could use these same tools and become a great 2B? It's not like he's 27 years old with 8 years of play under his belt. Maybe, ultimately he winds up in the OF. But right now, why not see if he can improve in the infield?
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 07:35 AM) If the Sox were serious about winning and rewarding their fans for sitting through a rebuild, they'd sign Machado if things fall into place like they should. When he signs, he probably will get the biggest or second biggest contract of all time, and there will be 29 owners that don't give a s*** about their fans. It would be nice, the reality is it's a real long shot.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 07:25 AM) It absolutely can be done. Craig Biggio did it after being a catcher. Yes, Robin Yount moved to CF later in his career . Chet Lemon was a 3B originally. But it depends. Moncada has a ton of tools, but we have no idea what his instincts would be. He could take an Avi Garcia path to the ball. To say it was a slam dunk he could handle it is as wrong as saying he's 21 and it's too late for him to learn. But the great OFs, they have something that cannot be taught. It almost seems as if they are moving before the ball is hit. There are guys with a little bit better than average speed that cover a lot more ground than some who can really fly.
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White Sox Scout Yankees for Potential Q Trade
Dick Allen replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (peppers312 @ Mar 15, 2017 -> 01:25 PM) if the Yanks aren't giving up Sanchez and/or Torres as one of the pieces why are we talking to them again? is their farm system THAT loaded with other prospects the Sox would be interested in acquiring? I have no idea how the Sox rank the Yankees system, but I sort of agree with you. All we hear is so and so isn't on the table for Q. OK, Q isn't on the table for your team. It's not only their top prospect, but it seems with a couple of teams 2 or 3 prospects are supposedly untouchable. They can f*** off. -
Lopez/Giolito/Kopech/Moncada/Fulmer sent down
Dick Allen replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Scott MerkinVerified account @scottmerkin 8m8 minutes ago White Sox optioned RHP Chris Beck, RHP Tyler Danish, OF Willy Garcia, RHP Brad Goldberg and LHP Giovanni Soto to Triple-A Charlotte.... White Sox optioned C Alfredo Gonzalez to Double-A Birmingham. Reassigned LHP Aaron Bummer and RHP Blake Smith to Minor League camp. Bummer. -
I bet Trump's own team leaked his return.
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If you are freaking out about Giolito's velocity during a spring game on March 13th, good luck making it through the next 2 or 3 years.
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 14, 2017 -> 11:28 AM) Taking it to new heights in both the kind of lie and the frequency. Its not normal. Yes, there are some things they have to lie about, but Trump lies about everything and anything, and his underlings defend it with more lies. Despite saying Obama tapped his phones at Trump Tower calling him a sick and/or bad guy, he really didn't mean Obama had his phones wiretapped. The lie is one thing. The spin is what makes it even worse. Accusing the former President of breaking the law should be serious stuff. Trump thinks it's like reality TV. Just lie for the pub and the sympathy. I'm sure some on the right will defend him making up wire taps, but they aren't dealing in reality. He also said everyone would have better and cheaper health care. I'd love to see how he would do on Maury. He might be so messed up he doesn't think he's lying.
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So Kellyanne started talking about spying microwaves, when questioned she went to Obamacare. Why do networks continue to put her on the air? Just say no thanks when she is offered. She will be defeated, get fired, and may start making sense after that. She used to have the exact same questions about Trump most of us would like answered truthfully.
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2017 NFL off season thread
Dick Allen replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) According to the earlier post there's a good reason for it. Everyone ran from the Bears like they are the plague (kind of accurate too) Nothing throwing a bit more money at them wouldn't fix. Their offers for the top guys were lacking so they had to pull a Krause and sign Ron Mercer. -
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) Hoiberg's rotations (lack thereof and overall inconsistency), haven't exactly put guys in positions to succeed. That said, they may all suck so it might have never mattered. There was a play yesterday where Valentine through a good pass into Felicio and it was like he didn't even know what to do (and completely botched what was a wide-open lay up). Jerian Grant flat out can't pass, yet we play him at PG. I have no idea why we are enamored with him...I don't want a PG who can't pass (unless they are an electric scorer). Having a PG who can't pass, isn't great defensively, and isn't a great offensive player is worthless. We have accumulated a bunch of worthless PG's. Cam Payne can't pass or shoot. Even Hubie Brown questioned his ability to be a point guard. All their point guards suck. Rondo might be the best one. How Gar was gushing over Payne, that should be enough to tell you he isn't an NBA level talent evaluator. He probably could pick a good team at the Y. What was the goal here? Vince Goodwill, who is about as good as it gets as a beat guy even though he is a big Pistons fans, was saying when they traded Taj, things were going to go south that he was the true leader of the team. So if their goal was to fall short and get a lottery pick, then what they did was fine. But Cam Payne sucks. He looks like an 8th grader launching up shots. If the goal was to still make the playoffs, yet more proof that everyone in the world except his bosses knows Gar has no business doing what he is doing. The problem is they can't shoot 3's at all. That isn't going to work in today's game. Butler's heel is still bothering him, so that doesn't help. I also am sick of hearing about their offensive rebounding. Of course they lead the league or are near the top. No team misses more shots.
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"White Sox fire sale isn’t over — it just got paused"
Dick Allen replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 09:31 AM) You are suggesting the TV rights wouldn't change if there was an actual team in Las Vegas? Vegas gets claimed by other markets because there is no team here. I'm not sure how one can appropriately value a Vegas baseball television market without the presence of an actual team? Nor would I suspect that the fact that other teams claim it as a market shows any pertinent information on value to that effect. Washington didn't have a team. I think they are still battling it out with the Orioles. Teams don't give up their territories very easily. -
"White Sox fire sale isn’t over — it just got paused"
Dick Allen replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The White Sox have a rather long lease and make money every season. There are several other teams that cannot say the same thing. Every 6 months we get the Sox moving posts. They aren't leaving. Put it to rest.
