Dick Allen

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 08:45 AM) The Sox are bad at...being loyal to their fans. As an owner, the first people you should be loyal to our your fans. You should be wanting to put the best team out on the field at all times with the best possible coaching staff. As a partial season ticketholder, I can tell you, the Sox are very loyal to their fans. The perks for season ticketholders are as Larry David would say, "pretty, pretty, good". You get a big discount on the regular prices. You get basically 3 free parties. A pre season party with free food and drink in the ChiSox Bar and Grill. The season ticketholder party during the season, and something they started a couple of years ago, free game tickets and patio party passes to another game. When you are paying $11 a seat, these are some really nice perks. No team tries harder to sell tickets and has better deals than the White Sox. I think it would cost me more money for the same kind of package to see the Schaumburg Boomers. They send you free gifts. A couple of years ago it was an 83 jersey, last year it was a plaque sort of thing for Paulie. When they won the WS, it was a probably about a 10" high replica WS trophy. They obviously tried very hard to put a competitive team on the field, and spent the money. Sometimes it doesn't work out

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) The Sox should really try unloading LaRoche on the Pirates Probably would have to eat at least half his money, but not a bad idea. I do think the Sox need to be talking to the Dodgers. Their ability to absorb contracts puts a lot of things on the table. If they will take Danks or LaRoche or both in another deal, let them trade him to Pittsburgh. Puig for Q, LaRoche, and Danks. Decline Alexei's option and think about how much $$$ you have to play with.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 04:05 PM) This is the stuff that makes me want them to lose. I have nothing against the players. The fans just piss me off. I want to see them lose, but that shirt kind of makes me laugh. For,a fan base who has always said they couldn't care less about the White Sox, it is pretty easy to find Sox suck shirts at just about every vendor around the park.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) Don Ventura pretty clearly didn't like Guerra. They barely pitched him when he was up. 30 year old career minor leaguers who come in and give up 3 runs in 4 innings, generally aren't given a heavy workload by any manager.

Cowley trying to stir up a Butler/Rose feud saying an ex-teammate claims while the 2 like each other, J G Buckets doesn't respect Rose's work ethic. If it is an ex-teammate and they are talking crap from last season, it can only be Nazr he is talking to, as everyone else is back.

The Astros drafted so well they were able to pass on Kris Bryant and Carlos Rodon.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) Speaking of which, despite all the talk going around lately about how the NL Central is so amazing, they couldn't even manage a winning record against the worst division in the AL. Not saying the AL Central is better, but good lord am I sick of the NLC circlejerk. There is no doubt STL, PIT, and the Cubs would have good records in the AL, but the best 3 teams in baseball crap is just that, crap. There are a lot of gimmes in the NL.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) So they're sacrificing OF defense to get LaStella's bat into the lineup? What? I saw a Cub loving media member say LaStella was in the line up to get Cole's pitch count up. Expected him to see 24 pitches in 3 ABs. One thing I found interesting, as bad as the White Sox were this season, they were only 3 games worse vs. AL opponents than Houston.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) That's what I posted several pages ago on this thread. Watching Houston last night drove it home even more. You can't compete with a lineup made up of 30 something free agents who cost a ton and don't produce better than the young athletic power hitting speed demons that the Astros accumulated by tanking AND drafting position players well. The fact that they are not blaming the manager means they are blaming the players. I expect a very active winter for the White Sox.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) This lineup sucks so let's get rid of eaton? Lol The person suggesting trading Eaton, ripped Ventura for playing him, saying he's not as good as his numbers. Now , trading him is supposed to net a 3B and a catcher. That's living in fantasyland.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 08:17 PM) From all I've heard he's just simply too weak at this point. I remember Matt Bowan said he was getting pushed around all training camp. I'm assuming they just want him to get stronger. Adam Jahns said he looks like a retired OL who lost a lot of weight. Says he is slight compared to the rest and needs to put on about 25 lbs. If they can get him stronger, it could be a good pick. My dad is friends with Jerry Vanisi former Bears GM. He told him when they drafted Richard Dent, his teeth were so bad, he couldn't eat. They got that fixed and he became an 8th round HOFer. Hopefully, this guy can put on some weight, and not have it slow him down.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) Yeah, I don't think this will work unless there is massive investment in security measures. Even then, it's probably a long shot. I agree. A friend of mine does a lot of business in Mexico City. In fact, he lived there for several years. It would be a security nightmare. All the people he deals with have money and several bodyguards. Several years ago, they threw out a Mexican city as a possible new home for the Expos. He told me it would never work. I believe him.

Supposedly, Buehrle had 4 cortisone shots into his shoulder this season. Chances are, he's hanging them up.

QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 05:26 AM) Dick, Your LaRoche stats fail to state an obvious point. In 2014, he struck out 21% of the time. In 2015, it was 33%. At some point during any season, a player who cannot hit simply needs to be kept out of the lineup until they can figure out how to hit, or to at least have better contact. LaRoche left so many men on base this past season, he cost the Sox runs. His QAB was so incredibly low he was pretty much an automatic out, especially with 2 strikes. A manager's job is to win games and nothing else. Putting LaRoche's needs above the team's most likely cost them runs and perhaps some wins. There's that pesky WAR factor again. If I were Ventura, I would see what happens to him in Spring Training. If it's the same, I would say eat the salary and get someone else. Shuck only struck out 11% of the time, so why not let him DH? They are both lefties. Why is this so hard for Ventura to figure out? JB Shuck is a fine 4th OF. Playing him every day wouldn't work.

Supposedly the Sox came in 2nd attempting to trade for him last winter, of course that was before they signed Melky. His price is going to be extreme, and until this season, had been hitting lefties like LaRoche. I think it will probably be too much money.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) or it could improve it .... i am basing this opinion on the bo jackson jersey in white sox garb. Yeah but if you or someone is sporting a Bo Jackson number 8 with no name, is it Bo, or Albert Belle, or Alex Cintron or someone else? There is a reason game worn Konerko jerseys have a $1000 price tag on them at Sox parties, and you can pick up a Scott Downs game worn for $25. Even non game worms, the name personalized it even more, which IMO increases sales. You see so many more people wearing jerseys to games these days.

I think with jersey sales most likely at an all time high these days, removing names is not happening.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) jeez Bob Elson audio. Makes you want to cry compared to what we get nowadays. Bob Elson could put a coked up Charlie Sheen to sleep.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) A poster here said that someone close to the organization told him Hahn is going to push for Frazier. I can see that too. Frazier would cost a ton of better prospects if they traded him. Supposedly, he is at the back of the back up the truck lime for the Reds.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Desmond will get a QO in my opinion. I'm sure he will, but he's got a lot of power for a SS, and IMO has enough offense to play 3B. A 2nd rounder isn't a big deal especially since they most likely with have the supplemental. They probably won't sign him, but I do think he is a guy they probably look at pretty closely.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) He's most likely to get a QO though. If I'm signing a player that has a QO attached to him, it's Heyward and maybe Upton. It might not be fair, but the one thing that would concern me about Upton is his brother fell off a cliff when he turned 28 with is exactly what Justin will be next season. I don't think he will be as bad, he's obviously a more talented player, but there could be a drop off in production.

I think Ian Desmond is someone the Sox look at. He can play SS next year, and if Anderson is good enough, move him to 3B. His contract could be a little depressed by his awful start this season.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) Theo said this would happen. He was right. The smart people knew what the plan was. Think about how lucky Theo got: He traded for a Cy Young guy at the deadline for an average FA to be. Samardzija turned down his contract offer which saved him money, and got him Russell. For some odd reason, Houston didn't draft Bryant, they drafted Apel. I won't even get into the Rizzo shenanigans. What if the opposite had happened on even one of these?

QUOTE (Douglas Rome @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) LaRouche looks like a statue, but he looked like a statue in 2014 too, didn't anybody see that before they hired him? He's a stiff, I would just dump him and write it off as a bad deal. Why keep him around like we did the other Adam, he's a cancer that needs to be cut off at the neck. And he says he's sorry and he should be booed, but he still cases his checks. If one of these stiffs would come out and say don't pay me, now that would be something. How 'bout this, Adam Ladouche comes out and says don't pay me until game 162, and then, and only then, pay me if you think I deserve the money? thanks, douglas LaRoche 2014 26 HR 92 RBI .259/.362/.455 What a stiff, Thanks, Dick

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) To be fair, Theo did come out and basically say at the time, we're gonna suck for 3-4 years so be patient. At least that front office had/has a plan and are on the same page. And a year ago, Theo was getting ripped left and right. It was reported the Cubs had no money, they spend it all paying down their debt, their TV ratings were horrible... Now nothing in the world is wrong with the Cubs.