Dick Allen

I am hoping the Sox get Fulmer, and if not, Jay. If both those guys are gone, one of the SS. I know Stephenson is the flavor of the week, but HS catchers are really hard to project. I know the organization can use catching, every single organization can, but they usually take longer to develop, especially a HS guy. I'd rather they spend 4th-10th rounders on a college guy. If the guy turns into Ron Karkovice, it's a win, and I don't think you want to spend the 8th pick on that. The Sox did pick Kurt Brown 5th in 1985. Barry Bonds was the next selection.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) I'd GLADLY gamble 1/15 on Samardzija next year at this point. Considering what they supposedly at least were prepared to pay him, that's a no brainer. It is highly unlikely he would accept, unless he blows out his elbow or something in the next few months.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 08:22 AM) But for the purposes of argument we actually might as well give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him to be the player of the first 3-4 months of 2014 vs. everything post 2014 ASB. Because his post all star numbers last year: .350/.435/.513 are just tragic. The White Sox are doomed.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) Because Abreu isn't a good defensive first baseman...unless you don't consider that a flaw. He's also a well below-average base runner. He's also behind the likes of Adam Lind, Albert Pujols, Lucas Duda and tied with Mitch Moreland in war at that position. But for the purposes of argument we actually might as well give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him to be the player of the first 3-4 months of 2014 vs. everything post 2014 ASB. If we don't, then things get really depressing. Neither is Miguel Cabrera, yet I think every team would take him, just like they would Abreu. If you really think Jose Abreu isn't as good as Adam Lind.........

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 07:34 AM) You're smart enough to figure out that Abreu belongs in the asset category. Must he be listed?...it's like a "given" in a geometry proof. (Maybe I have more NEFARIOUS, Rasputin-like qualities in not including him, even though EVERY reasonable White Sox fan knows he's one of the most important members of the organization going forward.) As for the second part, either it wasn't important when the the Royals lost Rios to a broken finger OR former White Sox prospect Paulo Orlando did an admirable job after being developed by their minor league instructors and Rusty Kuntz: Their record on that day (Rios got hurt) was 7-0. They were 22-18 with former White Sox signee Paulo Orlando and Dyson sharing the position. Since Rios returned against the Cubs, they're now 2-5. So they're 4 games over with Rios....and 4 games over with Orlando/Dyson. LMAO. Why in the same post you failed to mention Abreu when ripping the offense, writing there is not one offense player without major flaws, you mentioned Robertson and Sale as pitching assests?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 7, 2015 -> 10:59 PM) Good post. You identified the only assets this team has. In basically the same posts he has posted a thousand times telling us all how terrible and hopeless the White Sox situation is, he did fail to mention Jose Abreu as an asset. Of course he is the one who ripped the White Sox and KW for getting Alex Rios, yet somehow the same Alex Rios is supposedly a huge asset and a big loss when he was injured to KC.

Maybe on days Shark "starts", they should have a reliever pitch the first inning. That should save at least one run.

As bad as anyone wants to make Danks out to be, the White Sox are 5-6 in his starts.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 7, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) Time to focus on the next game and win the series, its not like we had a chance with a matchup of Danks vs Price Yes. Just win the series. Ace vs, #5 stsrter no need to sound the alarms because of a loss.

Bonifacio is in LF tonight.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 6, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Don't you need Melky to come around if you really want a shot at the division or a WC? Yes. There are 2 ways to go about it. Have him play through it, or give him a few days or a day off to try to re-group. If he doesn't snap out of it soon, I am sure they will try another way. The beginning of this slump was when he was hitting rockets right at people. I am not giving up. Through 60 games in 1983, Carlton Fisk was putting up Tyler Flowers numbers minus the strikeouts. He almost won the MVP. Melky should get it going.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 6, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) You can keep the snark because your adding and subtracting didn't have the infallible predictive value you purport it to have when last year's estimated financials were released. You were doom and gloom last year and the Sox were estimated (understand all of your adding and subtracting is on estimated numbers) to be the eighth most profitable team in baseball. That was as the 24th best team. Since you have it down to a science, we can make a sig bet on the Sox increasing their payroll from '15 to '16. You can use your adding and subtracting and I'll just take a blind stab and say they will. This. I didn't see anyone say the Sox made $31 million last year until Forbes came out. In fact whenever the additional $25 million in TV money was mentioned, loss of ticket sales and advertising was mentioned as eating that all away. Besides, the $3 million loss Forbes had the Sox take in 2013 included the $10 million bonus Abreu received after that season. If we are going by Forbes, this team has made well over &150 million the last decade or so, so that must be sitting somewhere as well. For anyone here to think they have a true handle on White Sox finances is laughable, We really don't even know if the Forbes numbers are accurate, and they have access to a lot more things than we do. They at least were prepared to pay Tanaka a lot of money. They at least were prepared, even after spendimg all that money, to pay Shark a ton of money. Any doom and gloom the Sox are maxed out and will be horrible for years is silly.

Avi was hanging out over the plate that AB. I think he could have taken a strike off his elbow. That last one was inside, and had no chance not to hit him.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) In a tie game at home, absolutely Down one in the 9th, there is no chance for a save, and he could use the work. It is by the book.

10 pitch 1,2,3 inning vs. 3 guys who have hurt him. Good start.

The A's called up that switch pitcher. Considering how many switch hitters there have been, I am kind of surprised there haven't been several more switch pitchers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) The confusion may be that Detweiler literally came off the DL yesterday morning. Yes, and the White Sox announcers said they only had 1 lefty in the bullpen. I fell for it. I was glad they at least were all righty after the guy came in for Melky.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) Pretty sure Texas only has 1 lefty in the pen and he came in against Melky last night in the 7th Ross Detwiler didn't get in the game and he was warming up. He is a LH reliever. Here are the line ups. Check the bullpen https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane/status/606563887626878978

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) So is pinch hitting to use match ups to your advantage. I thought when the leftie came in they said it was the only leftie in the pen. They did, but later they showed the other lefty warming up. Anyway, there is no way that is on Ventura. 2 runs in 10 innings would have been a win. They didn't hit when they needed to hit.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) The fact the Rangers have one leftie in the pen and our left handed hitters did not pinch hit last night still irks me. Especially for Ramirez or Cabrerra and probably should have for Beckham and FLowers as well Also if Ventura is only going to use Robertson in save situations, he has no need on the team and will get rusty more times than being sharp. Has he pitched in the last week? When he blows his next opportunity (ala Toronto after a week lay off) this can be the number one reason. Ventura is not getting better at his job. They actually had 2 lefties in their bullpen.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) And not just bad. Bottom of the barrel bad. A guy who puts catcher as his occupation on his tax return and he cannot catch.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) Why have a front office then? Reinsdorf can just have one his grandkids poll a message board. I think most were very happy with the White Sox acquisitions this past offseason. The team hasn't gelled yet, and maybe never will. But the decisions seemed fairly solid. There isn't a GM in baseball that hasn't made a few mistakes. The thought process here seemed pretty solid. I didn't agree with all of it. I was really against what they gave Duke, and couldn't understand waiting a year for Samardjiza. But if they are trying to win, and not waste Sale and Abreu's prime years, you have to take chances. Some usually don't work out. There still is time for these to work out.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) If Williams and Hahn are teflon, could they at least get rid of some scouts / advisors? Whoever thought that giving Melky Cabrera and Adam Laroche those deals was a good idea needs to be gone. There are teams with far better track records of seeing things that the White Sox obviously don't. Who was the last non-pitcher that they "hit" on? Everybody and their brother was in on Abreu, so I don't include him. There were people here who thought CarGo, Matt Kemp, and Jayson Heyward were good ideas. Sometimes it doesn't work. I really don't know the hate directed LaRoche's way. He's been doing pretty well lately. I am also sure Melky will rebound at least some.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 06:44 AM) Isn't Art Tellem Roses agent? He just joined pistons as an exec. BJ Armstrong is Rose's agent. Arn Tellem has been an agent for a long time. I once read where JR liked dealing with him. I guess that won't happen anymore.

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 08:13 AM) He's turned into Scott Downs. I'm still wondering why Robertson or Putnam weren't pitching in the 11th. I think they were saving Robertson if they had a lead, and Putnam must have been unavailable for some reason.