Harry Chappas

he wants 3 and Baines has agreed to unretire it for the second time...his portrait and statue will remain

Sale can not be traded even if the White Sox wanted too.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:05 PM) So the White Sox are going to add a guy who has hair that violates team rules from what I read. And they are going to have a guy on the team who used roids on a day we are honoring Big Hurt. Mockery. I am sure the 23,000 fans that went out there on as a beautiful night as there could be last night to watch a team in the pennant race will agree with you. Manny Ramirez can do things nobody since Frank Thomas and to some degree not even he could do sorry he did PED's so did other teams. Tehy got Canseco and there was no question there. Teh holier than thou approach is fine but it will not win.....I wonder how many yankee fans want A-Rod gone. They are not honoring Thomas because he was clean they are honoring him because he hit the s*** of a baseball just like Manny.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) You are a good fan. Many look the other way when it's their player who did the cheating. We don't need to get this guy and give him standing ovations. Sure that clean Kotsay is all we need to win the division. I wish PED's were not a part of baseball but they are and if the Sox get a guy that has a histroy so be it some other team will. I would not feel better if the Rangers got him and they beat the Sox in playoffs becasue of it or the Twins got him and won the division.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:52 PM) Whats awful is that the waiver deadlines don't include the weekends, even though every team plays on every Saturday & Sunday during the season. That adds two days to the process, the deadline to make a deal with LA would have been Sunday, instead of Tuesday. The Dodgers are not going to play him if he is going to be moved. If he is injured they are on the hook for the contract. That is why he sat out yesterday afternoon. Also Pods is doing well and Furcal is out they need a leadoff man more than Manny right now.

The Sox/Dodger trade history and the deadline trade conversation lead me to believe a trade is in place. The Dodgers have played better without Manny the last two years so keeping him for a playoff run is not ideal for them. I think the Sox get him and Denver and Chicago are United hubs he can be here by 3:00 if he really wanted to........I want him to lit up CC's tits tomorrow

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:00 PM) One has to wonder if the Sox even placed a claim on Manny. All this talk might be a moot point... If the Twins, Rangers, Rays, Red Sox or Yankees get him the White Sox will be roasted to no end.

It could be worse the Sox could have gotten Lance Berkman.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:48 PM) They're citing this article which somehow believes the Rangers have a better shot than us. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...tml?xid=si_mlb Heyman throws so much **** against the wall. They may have a better trade to offer but if the Sox place a claim the Rangers are not even invited to the party. I think the Dodger/White Sox trading history will help if he makes it to the White Sox. These twitter folks do not seem to understand how the process works. The Tigers have an easy schdule in September maybe they are rolling the dice and filing a claim and were hoping to clear Damon's salary to do so.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Not the Orioles Sox did fairly well down there also.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:30 PM) Really...the Sox are the first team with legitimate reason to claim him in the AL...unless a team decided to block him out of spite. We've got the worst record of anyone left in the race. I could see Beane claiming him for no apparent reason.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:28 PM) @SI_JonHeyman - word is, multiple teams actually claimed man. now who got the claim? Well if NY and Tampa did not file a claim then the only other teams in a worse situation than the Sox are Boston, Minnesota and Texas....not looking good.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:08 PM) Like it or not, the Sox have already blown their chance to think that it's ok to lose ground against the Twins when we're playing good teams. If they wanted to be in positions where they didn't need to sweep the Yankees, then they should have beaten the Twins. Or the Indians. Or the Orioles. Whoever. I agree that the bad losses hurt and may have really hampered the divisional hopes but if you think they are going to win every game the rest of the way I can assure you they will not but I will remain interested in how it all plays out even they lose one game of ground this weekend.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 11:20 AM) Really, we're past the point in the season where we can be fine with losing ground, no matter who we're playing. They need to beat he Indians while the Twins are playing the Rangers that is where they need to make up games. 4.5 Monday is doable....I would hope for 3.5 but the M's are terrible and he Twins miss Hernanadez. I expect nothing other than a Twins sweep and it is unrealistic to think the Sox will sweep the Yanks...the only hope is the M's defense can take away the dinks and dunks and that the M's can hit the ball. You can be disappointed that they can win two this weekend and lose ground but I will be fine with it.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 10:58 AM) He has ten wins and has often gone 6 or 7 good innings for us. The ERA jumps when he or any pitcher has a bad game or two and gives up a lot of runs in just a couple innings. That has not happened to Freddie on any consistent basis so overall he has done a commendable job. Freddy is the kind of guy the yanks destroy like they do to MB. I expect nothing out of him tonight and hope Danks and Floyd bring their A game the rest ofthe weekend. 4.5 out Monday morning and I am fine.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 11:09 AM) It's official. Manny will not be going to the Rays. There was no chance of that if the Sox claimed him which they will.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) Ah OK, no I agree with that concept, I just really like the docs because as I said earlier it shows all the "hidden" sources of income, meaning how big some of the TV contracts are and how much teams make off the jumbotron signs etc... Again, they don't have the White Sox so I am conveying these onto the White Sox, but it bolsters my argument that for a large market team like the White Sox, attendance is important, but not as important as smaller market teams. I would love to see the White Sox docs for many reasons, biggest being parking, I heard they have a great deal with that. You are 100% right about the franchise value, that was the crux of the final analysis on deadspin from a CPA, basically saying that's the "holy grail" of owning a franchise, teams just need some cash-flow (basically why the Cubs are screwed for another year or two) and can even take some loss, but the equity is the key, and few teams are in better position than JRs ownership group as far as that goes. The White Sox I believe will show what they are doing is what they say they are doing. They can take a loss for a year and JR can open the wallet to the tune of $4-5M as they can tap into their equity and take a loss from time to time. This is when KW asks for the extra $0.50. In the long term the Sox are not going to do this annually but will if need be. I believe the White Sox get 100% of parking as JR owns that land although I could be wrong.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) I have a feeling they'll wait to Cliff Lee signs, make a strong last effort to re-sign Danks and if he doesn't move him to one of the teams that were in the Lee sweepstakes, even offering an extension window. (not saying Danks = Lee, but he would be a pretty nice 2nd place prize). If Danks can sign they'll move Jackson or Floyd I personally would go with the big five. Now that is a big five.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 06:54 AM) one year we might impact the financials one way or another (by capitalizing an item, thus delaying a chunk of the expense from hitting the P/L or by expensing the item, thus taking a 1 time hit which might allow future Net Income to apear higher). But one way or another the amount is still going to flow through the financials. And people are forgetting, teams can make a lot of money by seeing there franchise value increase significantly as well. You are exactly right. The key thing with these are not the P&L you can get these to look however you choose. The Balance Sheet is where everything lies. What is the debt on the books and what is the equity of the franchise those are goign to determine where you stand. A football bonus is an expense in year 1 for tax purposes yet it can be accounted for a couple of different ways and I am not even referring to the fictious salary cap. Eventually though it all comes through the P&L. Julio Cruz just came of the Sox books a couple of years back. He resided on teh Sox B/S for almost 15 years and hit their P&L annually. You can not really hide anything unless you have a holding company....or own the television/radio station that broadcasts your games. That is where you hide revenue from the team.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 10:13 AM) I wonder if GM Jizzo wishes he had a replacement stud like edwin jackson in rotation going into next year. Any chance of competing next year is gone as Dunn isn't going to hang around....that is a move that is making KW look like a genius as Jackson is doing much more than Dunn would do. If Peavy can get healthy that staff has MB or Peavy as the number 5 and can move Danks if he won't sign an extension......Sale is also in the mix.

I'll take Jackson but I really think that pitchers can thrive with weaker stuff in the NL. I don't know why I just do.

Dibble looks like a real ass now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 26, 2010 -> 11:06 AM) Here's the Big Ten division split: Division 1 Michigan Michigan State Iowa Nebraska Illinois Northwestern Division 2 Ohio State Penn State Wisconsin Minnesota Purdue Indiana Nice cakewalk that top division is. And it looks like OSU-Mich will no longer be played as the last regular season game. Way to completely punch tradition in the face guys. It will be played as the Big Ten championship instead.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 26, 2010 -> 08:32 AM) It's always possible that there may be issues between the Yankees and him that we don't know about as well. The Marlins did not seem fans. If I were the Cubs and he didn't sign a contract until November, I'd at least ask, and there might be a 1% chance of it happening. Can't hurt. I'll still have my mind blown if it's not Sandberg. They will do Girardi over Sandberg as the minion will eat that up. The Yankees will let Joe go, the cubs will nto hirre him away. The Ricketts do not have the cash to spend on the players they need to turn that thing around. They will not be any better next year so why would Joe voluntarily go for that? The Yanks may be leading him in that direction if they are not very high on him.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 26, 2010 -> 09:07 AM) We were probably top 2 or 3 about 2 weeks ago. Number one before the Baltimore series.