Texsox

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 08:55 AM) He claims we can have Ethanol as a viable alternitive to gasoline 6 years from now. I think thats a little optimistic but that defenitely seems to be the best shot we have to kick our oil habit. Believe me, as much as I defend the oil companies right to profit, I want to see us get rid of our foregin oil dependence as much as anybody. Id like nothing more than to be able to divorce ourselves from the Middle East and tell OPEC and s***bags like Chavez and the Iranian dictator to go to hell. There are so many reasons to kick our oil habit, and they generally should unite our country. Many alternates are better for the environment, or at least not as bad as current technology. It doesn't seem that we've advanced as fast as some would have believed a few years ago. I think having two oil men at the top of the government has both helped and hindered that process. And of course there is always a balance. These s***bags are also customers for every US corporation from McDonalds to Coke and from AMD to Intel. When their economy goes belly up, it will have world wide ripples. It never is that simple.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 08:49 AM) There was ONE Republican senator who voted against alito. Chaffe, I think. Hmmmmm. Let's say there was a GOP Senator who was on the receiving end of that threat, which would be a worse case for any reelection bid, caving in to blackmail, a bj in Union Station? And why would a bj in Union Station be any better or worse then one near the Oval Office? When I heard it was Union Station, I assumed it was a Democrat

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 08:18 AM) No, but you would think it would be illegal to threaten someones job and livelihood by revealing that they are homosexual. This is an angry blogger though, it doesnt seem like he is thinking through his plan so well. Now you are in a tricky situation. One has to agree that being a homosexual would threaten their job and livelihood. Don't we have laws against discrimination? I'm guessing, there isn't a known Senator in the receiving end of that threat, but maybe a bid to potentially guess right, or to attract attention to his blog. Under any circumstances it is wrong in so many ways.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) She can wear that at the local McDonalds, but not at the State of the Union. Her 15 minutes are up. I would agree if she was shouting, carrying a sign, or something along those lines. She wasn't creating a disturbance. It seems as if they were looking for an excuse to get her out of there, and that may have been a good idea, I'd be really embarrased if she had caused a disturbance during the speech. Yes, her 15 minutes are up, but things like arresting her just stretches it out.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 12:03 AM) So tell me, if supply side economics is causeing unemployment then why are we hovering at 5% unemployment nowadays after 5 years of tax cuts? We are also losing higher wage jobs and replacing them with lower wage jobs. I believe the military and military support industries are also hiring more people, which helps.

From Drudgereport.com Cindy's crime? Wearing an anti-war t-shirt

QUOTE(samclemens @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 10:05 PM) on point. taxes need to be lowered. i live in MI and we currently have the most stagnated economy in the entire county. the cause is the large amount of taxes due to democrat control of the state government. my only hope is that jennifer granholm loses. considering her opponent, devos will probably win simply because granholm doesnt do a damn thing. anyway, i thought bush did a great job on the speech. very nice. then i saw that new gov. from VA jump on with a response and i turned that s*** off, i'll go to bed on a happy, constructive note tonight, not a pessimistic, no solution, high-taxing note. Sam, not to pick on you, I appologize after reading this, but this is what our government has conditioned us to. Notice not a mention that spending needs to be lowered. The government needs to go into debt and give me more money. The Republicans will borrow money and give it to me. Talk about socialist programs.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) Its not a one to one black and white issue. Its called investment and return. I get a tax break which means that I can create a job where I wouldnt be able if I was taking that money and using it for taxes. The salary on those jobs are taxed. The product I make with those workers are sold and are taxed. Those inviduals are given benefits and a salary which means that the government is not paying for those services. Maybe I dont have to outsource my companys jobs to a foreign country. After all this, my company makes a profit where I can grow and create more jobs and more revenue. These are all extreme examples. But it seems our economy started to grow when the tax cuts were initiated. Rates, money introduced, and other methods didnt work to invigorate our economy. After the tax cuts our economy got better. So in order for that to happen, the US needs to go in debt. Are you at all worried that our economy can't grow without huge national debts? When will the debt be too big? If we don't continue the deficits, the economy will fail, according to your examples. While we are paying interest in the $1 debt Owner get's a $1 tax cut and buys a machine replacing a worker. Oops didn't think about that possibility. Owner get's a $1 rebate and heads to China to expand his business. Even if he gives a worker a raise with that $1, that still only returns $.20. It will never become more than $1, while the interest mounts. What has happened is they have bought your vote with money they borrow from foreign banks.

This just in from my buddy Howard

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:53 PM) How about you first show me how tax cuts are so bad when revenue is increasing. We have a defecit because government cant control its spending. Part 2, we agree. Sadly, neither party agrees with us. Revenues are up, but so is debt. The best example is I give you a $1,000 raise and you spend $2000 on your Visa celebrating. What we have discovered is if the Government runs a trillion dollar deficit, half a trillion increases in revenue. That still isn't good long term for our government. We make fun of the French, complain they wouldn't back us in Iraq, then borrow billions from them. Same with China and half the s*** holes around the globe. Guess who is financing our debt? It isn't just US citizens and companies buying Savings bonds. It is so surreal that Republicans no longer care about balanced budgets. Borrowing trillions doesn't faze them. The Dems have never been all that great in that area. That is my #1 fear, no one in Washington cares how far in debt the US goes and they ave convinced the public it doesn't matter.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:51 PM) There is no such thing as a perfect government program but I think you can look elsewhere and find far worse in the way of fraud and abuse. Example: I was in my accounting class earlier this evening and my professor once worked as an auditor for Medicaid in NY State. He told us a time he investigated a doctor who had billed Medicaid for 1 million dollars worth of care he did not provide. This doctor was caught and was allowed to get by paying 5000 a month in restitution to the government. After 2 months he left the state of NY and was never heard from again. This is 1 doctor doing this. Our socialist entitlement programs waste more money in a week than the DOD probably wastes all year. Based on the size of the budgets, I assume you are discussing percentages, we spend a lot of money on the biggest of socialist programs, our military.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:49 PM) Its odd, the money that gets reinvested into the economy to purchase or to invest in your business. That money isnt taxed? Who is paying those taxes? Show me how $1 cut becomes more than $1 paid in taxes later. Plus the $1 not taken in, and added to the debt, increases.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:43 PM) Yeah, that bloated military industrial complex which is doing 10 times as much with about 2/3rds of the people. Paying up to get our people the best equipment doesn't make the military bloated. You and people like you just love to talk out of both sides of your mouth. One side of your mouth is yelling for more body armor for the troops and the other side is wanting to cut billions from the defense budget. Wow. 10 times the results with 2/3 the people. And Republcans complained when Clinton cut the military, they said it couldn't be done. Gotta have faith in the military. Kind of like people that claim there is waste in all areas of the government, EXCEPT, the military. Maybe not cutting taxes would make it easier to pay for all this. But that isn't the Republican plan, you have to give everyone a tax cut while spending more money. That's fiscally responsible as long as you can convince people someone else (not anyone wealthy) will pay for it later.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:36 PM) So if someone works their ass off, makes sacrifices to become successful they should be boned because they got ahead. Lets penalize you for being successful. You make more money you can afford it. So they shouldn't pay any taxes? Or they should pay the taxes that Bush thinks is correct? Who is going to pay to run the government then? We are running up these huge debts, if we cut the taxes of those Americans with the most resources, shall we take more from those making $30,000?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:28 PM) Typical liberalism right there. Lets take from the producers and give it to the non-producers. Typical GOP, let's not pay for anything, run up huge debts to foreign banks, and pretend that someone else will come in and pay for it. We are giving it to Iraq (a non-producer) care to stop that huge expense?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:27 PM) There is a better way. How about we leave the tax cuts for those who affect the economy. The small business owner who will get boned if Dems try to repeal Bushes tax cuts. Lets penalize those who make a buck, because its the democratic way. Capitalism and not socialism is the better way. How is not paying taxes capitalism? How about balancing the budget instead of buying votes by promising you money and benefits? If a candidate paid each voter $50 he'd be in jail, if he promises to give everyone $50 in tax cuts and have someone else pay for it, he's a genious. Somebody had to pay for those cuts, with interest and it's going to be you and me. We pay taxes to pay for our government, we don't collect taxes to stimulate the economy. Let's not pay for anything, let's borrow trillions of dollars, that's the Republican way. Amazing that now it's the Democrats that want to balance a budget and the Republicans that keep promising someone else will pay the taxes in the future.

Dammit, picking two was tough. I want to create a sock puppet and add Shook me all night long.

Feeling Alright ~ Joe Cocker Baba O'Reilly ~ Who

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 09:19 PM) Oh this is soooooooooo typical of them. Bush sucks..........Bush sucks........Bush sucks........ That is soooooooooo typical of the "out party". The GOP tossed a lot of mud at Clinton, in case you forgot. The business of politics isn't much different from either party.

idiot. She was arrested as part of a group. It really pains me when extremists try to hijack the party.

So then he's screaming COME ON TIMO, COME ON TIMO!! or So this is Konerko stealing a base . . .

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 03:50 PM) But shouldn't the "biggest player in the game" show a little more respect for the "biggest event" in his game? Shouldn't the "biggest player in the game" including a Super Bowl victory, know what is expected and accepted from a player during this time? Maybe, even more than fans on a message board? I haven't heard any players complaining.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 04:42 PM) THESE ARE ALL LIES!!!!! LIES MADE UP BY THE VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!! Nuke, read it again, I know it's a reflex to call the media liers, but this one is against the Dems.

Thank God no one here believes anything in the media

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jan 31, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) I call it a bus driver, but that's just me. Of the poll choices, I'd have to go with Jager or Other. As I said in the other recent booze-related thread, I love C2H5OH in all its wondrous forms. Out of curiosity, Tex, how do you drink your Pimm's? With lemonade or a classic Pimm's cup? And are you the only one in your little slice of heaven who drinks it? Pimms and soda usually. And yes, I am the only one around here I know that even heard of it.