Texsox

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) So lets take some guns and shoot at the people helping us. That helps out the relief effort. I guess they are hoping that someone will take them to safety at gunpoint? Dumb

I've been trying to figure out why anyone could be so evil as to fire on an aid helicopter. What screwed up thinking. :headshake Grandma I got some food, a single MRE for all 7 of them. I just can't read anymore.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/...katrina_cuba_dc Cuban Parliament offers a minute of silence for New Orleans, then condemns Bush for Iraq. :headshake

On a small scale, how you survive a disaster or life threatening situation, is your attitude. I believe that is magnified on this scale. A very big part of what President Bush can do today is ease fears. He can assure the victims that are fearing physical violence that he is taking action and that criminals will be dealt with. He can boost the moral of the workers and volunteers that are working around the clock in filth and death. He can look the directors and the government people in the eye and say, Do it! In this case he is a cheerleader and damn important one. People who are not fearful, who are confident, or at the minimum hopeful, will make it through a lot better than the others.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Reddy and Tex - deep breaths. We are all on the same side here. I'm cool. I believe most people here know I am a kind and sensitive person who does not downplay human tragedy. I'm not going to trot out my volunteer resume as some sort of badge of honor but my conscious is clear. But thanks for the advice.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) not true man, it just seems to me that you've been trying to downplay the seriousness of whats going on down there. and you have been - saying that killing etc happens anyway. i'm pretty sure ANARCHY doesnt happen on a regular basis is NO In what post? I've been pointing out that while the negative gets the headlines, we should also know that thousands of volunteers, like yourself, are working around the clock to help people. That humans are for the most part, generous and peaceful, and come together in a tragedy. If you wish to think that the looters are the norm, go for it. But out of the 500,000+ effective, do you believe there are 100,000 muggers, snipers, and rapists? 250,000? And yes, I did mention these crimes will happen tonight in Chicago. Trying to show a little context. These are in many cases the same criminals that would have been committing violent crimes without a hurricane. To believe that the hurricane, and the aftermath, turned law abiding persons suddenly into rapists and murderers is wrong. It did turn law abiding persons into petty thieves if you believe taking water and food off store shelves to survive is stealing.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) dude, my school, Loyola Chicago - is opening its doors to students from Loyola New Orleans. they'll be sleeping in my dorm. i'm not blocking that s*** out I'M DOING IT. And if I posted that you would have said so WTF?

QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) guys what the hell? ok fine maybe their are FEWER bad guys than good, but it's still a disgusting and horrible situation where there are bands of men driving around in trucks with f***ING AK-47s shooting at police and choppers. there are boddies riddled with bullet holes, ppl with their heads shot off. i cant believe you guys are treating it like it's just another news story edit: can ya tell im in that dark place too right now? Just another news story? I am not. What I do know, as someone that puts a lot of hours in every year as a volunteer, that during a crisis, volunteers are everywhere and doing a hell of a lot more than posting on a message board. What you have decided to block out are the individuals that have opened their homes to shelter people. People who have taken in strangers and given them rides. People sharing their resources. Those stories are as much about this as the criminals. And I don't think I have to remind anyone here that those same crimes happened in NO before the hurricane. People were getting killed, drugs deals, stealing. That's happening in Chicago tonight. National Geographic had this one pegged a long time ago.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) tex listen to this: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html listen to the link i think this guy will know whether there are ppl helping more than you would (not to be taken offensively) but i'm just saying that to downplay the seriousness of the situation is foolish I'm not certain which comment this came from. Looking across the region, from San Antonio eastward, there are organizations after organizations trying their best to offer aid and comfort. I know of a convoy that left here two days ago loaded with portable cook stations fueled by propane, to help where they could. Basically they left without a destination, and a phone bank of volunteers calling to see where they should go. They are heading to Dallas and possibly into LA. The looters get on the 5:00 news, but there are far more angels than devils.

There are literally tens of thousands of situations like "what if the NO levee is breeched or gets a direct hit." and we do not have the resources to address them all. There are "overall" responses that are drilled and practiced. Like a hurricane hit, but not specific to anyone town or region. And while we are seeing images of a few looters and criminals, there are literally hundreds of volunteers for each idiot. There are thousands of people helping each other not hurting each other. The human spirit always comes through. As I have combed through some news stories and blogs you read about people sharing, offering aid, protecting each other.

How this will effect food prices and hurt our farmers

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To those that think Gload, or anyother player on the team should shut up and play for team chemistry and to avoid distractions. Letting things stew until the explode is not great for team chemistry either. There should be a balance between talking and shutting up. I think his comments were fine, and probably forgotten by his team mates this morning.

This should be interesting.

Did Letterman ask him to recreate the stunt?

This should play into Bush's strong suits. Play tough cowboy and stare down the lawless and looters. Be compassionate towards the victims. Whip up the volunteers who I am certain are starting to fatigue and burn out. Above all he needs to be specific on what relief is coming and where to. What exactly is being done right now and over the coming weeks. I have confidence in him in a situation like this.

Awesome. Someone should record that.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 07:34 AM) I was curious about historical context when I asked earlier, when was the last time that something like this happened. When was the last time that a major US city was basically destroyed by a natural disaster? The last two I could come up with were San Francisco in 1906 and Chicago in 1871. Galveston last 6,000 souls in 1900 from a hurricane. http://www.1900storm.com/storm/index.lasso

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 07:14 AM) Depresing, isn't it? I don't recall the ravaged population of SE Asia f***ing each other over for short term personal gain after the tsunami. Yea us. ( ) I believe the difference was there was not such a huge difference between the have and have nots. Not too many haves. So what was to steal. Here the have nots are always walking past the haves and now had their chance. Survival Hierarchy Rule of 3s 3 minutes without air 3 hours (varies) without heat. (exposure) 3 days without water 3 weeks without food. No one will be starving to death anytime soon. Fasts can go on for weeks, easily, and even months. Water is their most critical issue. Turn on your tap today and be thankful for the miracle of our water systems, both incoming and outgoing.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) To that one particular part of the city. Not everyone is there. You are talking about trying to track down a couple of hundred thousand people spread out all over all kinds of flooded areas, trapped in places, and not even mentioning the safety of the people who would be trying to get this stuff there in the first place. Can you imagine them driving a semi-tracker full of food and medicine into some of those areas, and a group of armed vigilantes killing the aid workers and hi-jacking the truck? A couple of days ago I couldn't have imagined it, today it wouldn't surprise me. The very first thing they have to do is restore law and order. Until they do that, they can't rescue people, they can help people, and they can organize the safe distribution of good and services to the masses. Sobering thought, but think of all the areas we have sent our military into to offer food and aid, then stood back and angrily denounced the citizens as ungrateful, lawless, etc. We seemingly are no better. :headshake

Thank you.