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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) No, I am suggesting that the Muslims running around crying about 'Islamaphobia' need to STFU for a moment or three because while there is a chance it was religiously motivated, their specific religion may not have mattered. Christian, Buddist, whatever, wrong place, wrong time. My only disagreement is you said here is zero evidence to suggest it was religious motivated. I believe there is some evidence that a religious motive may have been credit. Again, would you just accept the murders explanation or investigate to see if other crimes were committed?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) I think you can take what he said to mean that the US is better than most. Not sure anyone would agree that the system is perfect. But there IS a system in place. Unlike ISIS. There is a system. It is quick and effective. No long trials or appeals. Isn't that what America wants? Usually we declare people guilty before the trial even starts.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) I've never agreed with the concept of a hate crime, as a circumstance of aggravation or a seperate criminal act, unless it is a singular act. What I mean to say is, if you kill someone, you should be prosecuted for the murder solely. Now, if there is evidence that the suspect acted in part due to hatred of a specific or protected group, certainly the prosecution should bring that up at trial and during sentencing. It is part of the picture. But there should not be an added charge related purely to motivation, in my view. Exactly.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) There is so far zero evidence that he singled out Islam as the target of his aggression because he hated Islam and only Islam. If he hated all religion, then his attacks weren't anti Islam but rather anti all religions, and islam happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. COULD it be? Yes, it COULD. ANY attack could be. And I said that so FAR, there has been no evidence that he singled out Islam for his vengeance. I guess I haven't been clear. I am saying his anti-religion posts have moved it past zero evidence that it could be motivated by some anti-religious stance. It doesn't matter which religion. It could be Christian, Jewish, Islam, Buddha, etc. Are you suggesting as a cop investigating you wouldn't check out that angle and just run with the parking space story?

You don't think it would give them an edge in analyzing recruits and prospects? Remember this should allow the teams to find players that other teams are overlooking. But I agree there are certain disadvantages that those schools have in recruiting.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) They weren't anti-ISLAM. Religion in general, sure. Claiming he killed them because of Islam, so far, is false. He is anti all religions. But he isn't against Islam? My point is there is a basis that it *could* be religious motivated. You said zero evidence, there is evidence that religion is something that sets him off, that is something, not nothing. Whether that moves the needle to 3 or 11, I won't comment on, but I don't think you can set it at zero without ignoring his anti-religion rants.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 23, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) What about those that enabled and hid the guilty for over a decade? They should be punished. They are guilty as well.

Before Excel there was Lotus 1-2-3

He is not going to survive this. He repeated the story too many times. The next six weeks will be basically on screen auditions for his replacement. Wasn't Lester Holt a former Chicago guy?

Some of his anti-religious comments move the needle past zero. How far? Maybe not much, but it is off zero.

Zeros aren't always handled well by Excel.

That is also an interesting trend. It will be interesting if over time the Ivy league and the more academic elite schools have greater success on the field.

Well you shouldn't be. You should just be more careful.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 07:39 AM) That's some serious reaching. In the US we use capital punishment, on a limited basis, in a select number of states for crimes such as raping children and eating them. In some of these countries you're comparing us too, they do it because a female showed her ankles in public, or some other such nonsense. No, it's NOT the f***ing same. No it is not the same. You have placed the US at the top of the moral capital punishment pyramid. Perhaps the US is too lenient on criminals and don't execute enough. Your assumption is the US is the moral perfection on the planet and that anything that differs from ours is wrong. There are countries, a lot of them, that have stopped capital punishment. Where do they fall on your list? Can those countries say that all of the countries that kill criminals are wrong?

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) That said- does it even matter whether or not this was a hate crime? It was a triple homicide. I'm of the opinion that every killing is a hate crime. Who really knows with 100% certainty someone's inner thinking? I don't really care why, just prove they did it and lock them up.

Part of the acceptance among fans is someone who has made a career of watching baseball players over 40 years is dismissed as not knowing anything and a 21 year old kid with a spreadsheet can manage any team at any time (just ask them). Just plug in the key factors and use the decision that pops up. Both sides could learn a lot from each other. The fact that it seems you have to chose sides is the craziest part of that.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 08:15 PM) They didn't circumvent them. The adults did. Yet the adults are a vital part of the "team".

Unfortunately while you were viewing this thread, you were not posting. I thought I could have posted just ahead of you.

Seems strange today. Will the next post be out of order?

Great advice, and I have no f***ing clue what we're talking about.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) The definition of capital punishment includes the use of "legal process." I think you'd be severely stretching that definition to include "a decision made by a band of terrorists." "The" definition? Who gets to define the word? Legal processes vary around the world. Is the only correct process the one the US uses? Capital punishment is suppose to be a deterrent. The basic idea is if people fear the punishment they will not do the crime. That fear is also called terror. It isn't that much of a threat to call any group that imposes a death penalty as a terror group. We look at the people that are executed in the US and believe we are doing right and it is justified. But when other societies do that for different reasons, they are wrong.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 09:53 AM) And he liked that noted hate group, the SPLC. Along with a host of liberal websites and personalities. Makes his love of guns seem out of place. Hi Alpha. Sorry if I seem out of place

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) My view is this...the players accomplishments and what they did on the field happened and the players should feel proud about what they did. They weren't aware of the rules, etc, and the view to me is they played their guts out and earned what they did. However, the rules are the rules and everyone needs to play by the rules. The parents need to step up, take blame and responsibility, and show the kids how adults handle things, but nobody should be blaming these kids or taking anything away from their actual performances on the field. The wins were forfeited but in their eyes they know what they did and should feel proud of what they did on the field, imo, but should also learn a valuable lesson as to why you shouldn't cut corners and how you should handle yourself if you do. Instead it seem like too many are blaming everyone else instead of the parents and the league which was responsible for this mess and throwing out all kinds of excuses, etc, which makes the kids actually feel like they were robbed of something, which they weren't. Agreed. No one is talking about the kids who were really robbed. The kids that would have played on that team who were not judged by the adults who knew them as good enough. They should have had the experience of playing in the tournament.

Nothing messes up youth activities faster than adults.

Great idea. Believe it or not I am still trying to nail down a birth town. The only references are comments he has made about being between two towns. Thanks for the tips.