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QUOTE(YoungstownIndians @ Feb 19, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) You are just saying that because you are pissed in every single preseason poll the Indians are ahead of the Sox. I don't believe I actually ever was. I was one of the people telling people to stay away from the ledge, and just to ignore anything any writer predicted. Yup, got that one right. Seriously, WTF did/does he expect? Indians fan on a White Sox message board. What a 'tart. Sox team average: .262 Indians team average: .259 Sox runs scored: 428 Indians runs scored: 412 Sox team OBP: .323 Indians team OBP: .322 Sox team HR: 106 Indians team HR: 104 Tribe have a better SLG% and OPS...but I think I've mentioned the ones that are necessary. Good thing you were right on that one. Jose Contreras - 5-5, 3.99 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, .222 BAA Freddy Garcia - 9-3, 3.41 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, .241 BAA Not bad for a 2 and 4 starter, eh? I love correct predictions. 2 f***ing hits?

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 09:26 AM) this is fun to watch. It's like watching the evil villian in a superhero movie die a slow, painful death Now... Are we talking about Boone, or Minnesota, or both, here?

QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 02:05 AM) Theres no doubt those are more important, but if we get him, we have all of the components. Also, based on Lowell's involvement, I believe we do have the best chance of getting him, because Baltimore has Melvin Mora, so they really have no use for Lowell. And the upside of getting a player who has been worse offensively than Juan Uribe this year and has a bad contract is what, exactly? It's almost having the best chance of having your face burned by a saldering iron.

QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 01:12 AM) P.S.- Many WS teams have had strong hitting thirdbasemen. Last year it was Mueller, who hit for average, and Rolen who hit for power. Plus, Lowell has had WS experience and I believe he will turn it around in the second half. Many World Series teams also have awesome pitching, a solid offense, and good defense up the middle. Much more important factors than a strong hitting 3Bman. Afterall, I wouldn't say Matt Williams was that strong offensively in 01.

QUOTE(Carlo Paz @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 01:05 AM) I think he throws left handed. Ya throwing left handed is a problem And I wouldn't say he can play the OF. He can stand out there and catch weak flyballs, but thats about it

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) I'd love to have a player with the same 1st name I do on the team. GRAB GUSTAVO Now that's just silly

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 03:49 PM) Great idea Jas! All year round forum.... Or not all year because the forum would be dead from January to June and then again from September to November

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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 04:19 AM) You guys are mean. I would not take much Rowand says seriously. I mean, afterall, he like slurps Timo and everything he does.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 03:25 AM) Didn't everyone say where are the Dodger haters now a few months ago? They turned out to be right. Maybe Oakland skeptics will still be right. THey lack right-handed thunder They are susceptible to good LHP is what I assume you are getting it. Of course, that has not stopped them one bit from hammering Buehrle this year. Given, that could just be coincidence, or they could just have Buehrle's number. There is also much more strong RHP in the league than LHP. That bodes well for them even if they are susceptible to good LHP. They very well could finish just above .500. The Sox 2001 team started out horrendously, something like 14-29, and they finished the season with 83 wins. I could see Oakland doing that. I also think this Oakland team is far superior to the 2001 Sox team, so that's one reason I make the argument I am making. Oh and for the record, the sig bet between me and qwerty is what Aaron and Hermanson do this year. He said Hermanson would finish with an ERA of 4.25 or higher, and that Aaron would not hit .270(though he will tell you that he said Aaron will hit in the .270s ). I got one of those practically in the bag, so let's just hope Aaron puts up a second half similar to last year.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) Of course a team can find itself but right now Oakland's just riding a hot streak even if they are a good team, what they've done the last couple weeks is just ridiculous. I think they're right around a .500 team this year, they do have a nice core for the next few years but we'll see how that works. By the way I did pitck them to finish 2nd in that division so I thought they were going to be decent. I'd make a friendly bet on them winning the wild card, I'll take the Twins and you can have them. IMO they aren't getting in, they'll finish around 82-85 wins but that's jmo. Friendly bet is cool, since I already have the sig bet with qwerty.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Wite, they're a game over .500 kind of where everyone expected them to be, it's not like they're ripping people apart. Well, actually right now they are but they're hot and after all is set and done they'll probably be a .500 team and miss the playoffs this year. I don't think that's gonna happen at all. The lineup is hot as hell right now, that's a given. But it was the worst in baseball early on. It will find a happy medium somewhere in between there, and be solid the rest of the year. That pitching staff is unbelievable though. Rotation 1-5 is solid up and down, Calero and Rincon are both very solid middle relievers, and Duchscherer and Street are lights out. What you seem to be suggesting to me is that a team can't find themselves at some point during the year and turn it around. However, it happens all the time. The Braves have done it numerous times over the years, the Marlins did it in the 03 season, the Astros last year, the Sox and Twins in 03(IIRC, they were the 2 best teams in atleast the AL in the second half of 2003), the Red Sox last year, and those are just off the top of my head without much research. The A's starting pitching finally started to pitch up to its potential, the bullpen has been strong all year, and the offense is clicking...why can't they continue at an 85-90 win pace? I see no reason why they can't, especially knowing teams under Beane of recent years, and how they have very strong second halves. They also completely manhandled the best team in the league, as the entire board is well aware of, so it's not like they are beating up on scrub teams. I said it before the year started that either I thought they were going to win the West of that they were going to be a surprise team. I took s*** for it early on. I don't think I'm gonna be taking much more s*** for it. They are for real, and I see them taking the Wild Card, which would almost undoubtedly pair them with the Sox in the ALDS, due to the fact that no one in the East will probably win more than 95 games, unless they get carazy hot, and that would leave the A's with only one other team they can face. Hella crazy test if the Sox wanna win it all, eh?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) Umm... Duchscherer is a reliever. He'll still probably say the same thing, just with Harden-Zito-Haren instead of Mulder-Zito-Hudson. And still won't give him any credit for acquiring/drafting the guys. This of course not mentioning Blanton minus May... 5-4, 2.44 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, .89 HR/9, 4.56 K/9, 2 K/BB Like I said...subtracting his awful May. So maybe Hawk's argument will be that it's even easier to win with 4 aces. (of course, need I mention how good Blanton would look right now in the White Sox system)

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) You all should bow down and worship my every post. If you ever say that again, I'm probably gonna have to hit you in the face with a trout. Just so you know

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) How could it be worse? Well, death might be worse

Atleast one good thing came out of this article... We'll never see Timo play 1B again. (crosses fingers)

Sox would have Anthrax's "boy" Placido Polanco playing 2B too. And Wonderboy Bobby Hill would be roaming around somewhere too. Also, assuming I understood the proposition correctly, they have to be drafted. That takes out the likes of Sammy Sosa, Pedro Martinez, and Vlad Guerrero, along with many, many, many others. Of course, if they don't have to be drafted, then Texas, Los Angeles, and Montreal are still giddy.

:banghead :puke :headshake

Don't look now, but Oakland is only 3 games back of Minnesota for the Wild Card, and 1.5 games back of Texas for second(though still 8 back of Anaheim). Going 27-11 over a stretch of 38 games with the offense finally catching some fire didn't hurt, did it? Anyone can win with 3 aces, eh Hawk? :rolly

If there is any trade with the Marlins, I would almost bet money on a reliever - most likely Marte - being involved. It has been mentioned before that a piece of the package that Baltimore is dangling is Jorge Julio, a very solid MLB reliever. As much as Florida apparently likes Chacin, I would find it really hard to believe that they would be able to top a Marte, McCarthy, and Vizcaino(and I say Vizcaino because Florida's pen has been not so hawt this year, with a bullpen ERA of 4.57 and WHIP of 1.43) deal without hurting the team long term. So long as it would mean Billy Wagner would be coming to Chicago for whatever price(preferably without having to include one of Anderson and Young, but I don't see the Sox not having to give up one of them), I'd be fine with it. Pitching staff would probably end up being Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, Burnett, Contreras with a pen of Wagner, Hermanson, Politte, Cotts, Shingo, and Jenks/Baj/vet pickup. If that could somehow be the pitching staff, I see World Series.

QUOTE(TimoandAaron @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 06:30 PM) you think Jeter or Matsui would have been in the game in like the 5th inning if they were voted in? With Francona managing?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Mike Lowell, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior is pretty solid too

QUOTE(56789 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) If someone does drop out, I am interested. I was on vacation when this was planed so i missed the sign-ups. I was active through all of the last one so you can trust me Your first two tasks would inevitably be getting JVB and Jamie Burke.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 07:25 AM) Has anyone of those players singlehandedly made multiple players better around them? What would be the net effect of having Ben Davis behind the plate for all of those games vs AJ. Tell me that guys like Garland and Contreras would be having the years they are having with Jaime Burke behind the plate. Tell me how many key hits that Chris Widger would have had if he was playing everyday. No one is denying that those guys you listed are important, but the guy that is most valuable to this team is AJ. The lineup is among the weakest in the league if Pods and Goochi aren't setting the table well. The '03 Dodgers proved very well that you can have the best pitching in the league and still not win if you don't have offense. Not sure if this team alone has 1 set in stone MVP. I'm just not sure you can make that argument. You can make the argument that some are more valuable than others...you can do that with any team. AJP has definately been one of the most valuable, that is for sure though.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 11, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) 3) Willie Harris blows Good argument I hope I'm not the only one that disagrees.