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QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Is there any way they could use that 2nd and this years 1st to trade up for Floyd or Blackmon (I realize Blackmon is probably a huge reach, but that'd be amazing)? I'd love to basically "trade" Forte + high pick for a potential stud WR. The thought of having 2 #1 WR's is very exciting, but probably very unrealistic. I don't get how they determine value of trade-ups. I know there's a chart with values, but when I see actual trades (like this year by the Redskins) it just throws everything off. Those charts are outdated under the new CBA. With the monetary cost of top draft picks coming down greatly, the value of those picks rises tremendously. Because the cost of those players is less substantial, there is less long-term damage that can be done by a busted player. When Cassel was traded to the Chiefs, there were rumors circulating that they offered the Patriots the 3rd overall pick and the Patriots turned it down because they didn't want to pay that much for an unproven player. That wouldn't happen anymore.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 08:43 AM) Paulie's Sox career ranks: Games: 4th with 1920 (Appling 2422) Runs: 5th with 1020 (Thomas 1327) Hits: 5th with 1983 (Appling 2749) Doubles: 3rd with 362 (Thomas 447) Homers: 2nd with 389 (Thomas 448) RBI: 2nd with 1235 (Thomas 1465) Strikeouts: 2nd with 1143 (Thomas 1165) Total Bases: 3rd wtih 3528 (Thomas 3949) Extra-base Hits: 2nd with 758 (Thomas 906) GIDP: 1st wtih 236 Hey, he's #1 in something!

I always thought the intro to Raining Blood would be a great walk up song for a closer.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 09:07 PM) Yet he's still going strong and making zillions of dollars yearly. Well it's odd isn't it? When he sticks to doing what he's best at doing, he makes money and is only considered a jackass by the audience that doesn't agree with his philosophical differences. When he stepped outside of that, he was a trainwreck. Now, who am I talking about, Ozzie or Rush?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 05:11 PM) What are u talking about? My point was Rush survived as Ozzie will. Nobody's even talking about Rush's blunder. For a while there was talk all the sponsors would leave. Oz will serve his five games and get booed. His fate will be decided on the field. I love Ozzie. So shoot me. Actually Rush was on the NFL Sunday Countdown set, and then he made a racial comment about Donovan McNabb, and he was, in no short order, removed from the NFL Sunday Countdown set.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 09:00 PM) If you factor in all the money we spent on Pena, it probably wasn't a win. We already have Dan Johnson and Conor Jackson, then there's Dunn/Konerko in front of him, so not sure if it would be of interest to KW, maybe not. I've constantly berated Brandon Allen on here, but, uhhh, gun to my head, if I had to pick one of Brandon Allen, Dan Johnson, and Conor Jackson to be my backup backup 1Bman, I'm going to pick Brandon Allen. Atleast there is still a bit of upside there. If he gets to the Sox, I'd have no problem with them bringing him back.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 08:50 PM) Rangers lineup is amazing I was happy to see that the Sox won a game down there and they could have won another. The AL West race is going to be incredible this year. I think people tend to overlook how good that Rangers pitching staff really is.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) Thing about Ozzie is, I can't think of any other manager/coach willing to comment on any of these issues in any sport. Can you? No, and I would prefer it that way. I don't want my favorite team's manager or coach or anybody in the organization talking about politics whether I agree with the general sentiment or not. I don't give a f*** how they feel about Obama or health care or Castro or abortion or the death penalty or the speed limit. I do care how they are going to make the team better. Ozzie Guillen is a total assclown who is constantly getting in his own way. I couldn't be happier that he's in Miami right now.

Dunn looks fine to me. He's seeing the ball, putting good swings on the ball, and his bat speed is there. I think for him, there's a mental hump that he needs to get over. Anybody on here who has ever played any sort of sporting activity at any level has gone through some sort of extended slump, and your self-confidence is crushed. Even when you start doing the small and fundamental things well again, you still need the self-confidence to know that you can do it and that you've done it before. I think that's the phase Dunn is in right now. He'll slowly start doing things well and then he'll bust out and hit 7 homers in a week or something stupid. There were a couple swings he put on balls tonight that I thought looked really good.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 10:28 PM) So now Sergio has to save 15-18 in a row to put himself in the territory of "successful" SV/SVO ratio. Or he can finish the year 40 of 48 and no one is going to care either way.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 10:50 PM) For all the whining about KW in these forums, the Sox do a good job of self-scouting, especially with their own pitchers. Santos is a one-trick pony that the league started to figure out. As I said at the time of the trade, his fastball is late inning average, he can't retire lefties and his slider is hit-or-miss big time. He looks horrible this season. I'm on record as being just fine with the Santos trade, but he's not a one trick pony. He will be streaky because there isn't a lot of deception...you know what you are going to get. But even in the early season, he's averaged 94.1 with his fastball and has a career average of 95.5 MPH. Joe Nathan, a guy who anybody should agree with was a power pitcher, has never averaged 95 MPH with his fastball during any season of his career. Santos can bring it just fine. I haven't seen him pitch, but it's certainly possible that he doesn't have a feel for his slider yet - because he's not using it - or he's not getting ahead of hitters - because it is his put away pitch. That's a pitch that he really needs to use, at minimum, 1 of every 4 pitches, but because of its movement, it's really meant to be thrown for balls and for it to appear as a fastball. He reminds me of Brad Lidge, and Brad Lidge was one of the streakiest relievers of all time. He may have a year where he's absolutely terrible, but at some point, he'll bounce right back and be stellar again.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) Of course...we also only scored 6 runs over the first 3 games...but then again, the Texas pitching staff isn't weak, and they were at home, and the Sox are playing a lot of kids who might well get better as the season goes along. The numbers weren't there this weekend. So I guess I'm left hoping that all these excuses are actually sorta accurate. Except for Gavin "never very good in April", Texas's bats didn't really light us up either, considering how their lineup stacks up compared to ours. Harrison pitched out of jams really well too. The Sox had a runner on third twice (one of which was sort of Beckham's fault, but with how the ball was hit, his first reaction was to go home...hard to blame him for that) and runners on 1st and 2nd twice, and he got out of all of them. I really don't have a problem with how the Sox performed offensively. They were having better ABs compared to recent years, so I hope it's something that gets results as the season goes on.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 08:22 PM) Gonna be going out of town for work in New Orleans. Anyone good/worth watching on the Zephyrs? Never been to a minor league game before, figure this would be a good time... Matt Dominguez is the best prospect on the team, but there are a few other names who you'll probably recognize. Also, Gary Glover - yes, that Gary Glover - is on the team as well as Cole Armstrong, who caught in the Sox system for about 4 years.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 06:34 AM) Is Olacio really 6'7"? Wow, the biggest lefty I can remember with the Sox was Jeremy Sisco. Thornton's big, but not THAT big. Andy Sisco. 6'10

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 07:30 PM) If Beckham struggles the rest of the season, I'm blaming this man: https://twitter.com/#!/gordonbeckham/st...401164688162816 TFM

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 11:32 PM) I think Ventura is going to have a different closer for each game. Depending on the situation. That is the best that I could get out of interviews and news articles. Closer by committee is fine by me. Give them all chances and see what happens. I don't like it. Name someone and be done with it.

I of course ask because the White Sox obviously have no hope, so we may as well make this golfsoxtalk.com. Oh, and I also ask because I'm drunk, and because the Sox lost, and who gives a flying f***, and Adam Dunn, please give more.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Apr 5, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) Okay. I am absolutely tired of this Ozzie-Kenny rift story. Time to move on. If anything, KW wanted to move on and wished Ozzie well. The Robin Ventura era begins! Yeah, I don't think so. It's only my opinion, and Williams would never admit it publicly, but I tend to think that it was a very facetious and sarcastic shot at Ozzie. They don't like each other. I don't think Williams wants to wish Ozzie luck, and I don't think Ozzie wants to wish Williams luck. It's a matter of being "professional," which is to say that you say the right things so that they cannot be legally perceived as anything but what they are at face value, but that there are absolutely layers to the message itself. This is a breakup. The Sox and Guillen have only been broken up for 6 months. For an 8 year relationship, that is no time at all. There will be a story written about this next offseason, and perhaps the offseason after that as well, and there will be many, many more in between then and now as well. As time moves on, the stories will become more infrequent and the intensity of the feelings will wear away from all sides, and we will look back on this just as we look back on the clubhouse spies that Williams and/or Manuel had in 2001 and 2002. Oh, and of course, that 8 years was only with Ozzie managing. That's not including the 13 years he was a player with the White Sox.

“As long as Kenny Williams is the GM, I will never go back to the White Sox,’’ Guillen said. /offers Kenny Williams lifetime extension

Love it. Also love it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) Matt Thornton's average fastball velocity last year was 95.8 mph and that was the 2nd highest of his career next to 2010. Matt Thornton did not struggle in 2011 because of velocity. He really didn't struggle after April.

What a glorious day in baseball. It's going to be weird cheering for the Cubs, but I'm going to be doing it 6 times this year.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 4, 2012 -> 12:21 AM) So my HS buddy from back home threw back-to-back no-hitters last year. Well since then, not only was he named the best pitcher in Indiana, but yesterday he threw a TRULY perfect game. Perfect game with ALL STRIKEOUTS. The only other person I have heard about doing that? Clayton Kershaw. Just sayin'. And Steve Nebraska

I don't care, throw Jimenez out there. Masterson's good. Jimenez is a glorified #3 starter. He can bring it, but the Sox, for the most part, can catch up to heat.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2012 -> 08:14 PM) The Sox and Cooper obviously feel the kid is ready to take the next step with the right coaching, hopefully they are right because the kid has a big league arm. The Sox might have the hardest throwing pen in all of baseball this year. Wouldn't be new. 2008 2009 2010 2011 You can also do an average from pretty much anywhere between, jeez I don't know, like 1991 and 2011 and the White Sox will have the highest average velocity among all teams. I stopped at 1998 because it was getting silly. Two big reasons are that 1) They have had atleast 2 hard throwing lefties in the bullpen pretty much every year for the last 5 years...there are exceptions, but for the most part, it holds true. There are some teams that haven't had a lefty in the pen, and if they have, it's mainly been for the purpose of having someone in the bullpen who throws with their left hand. 2) They haven't had any real specialty pitchers. Ohman should be treated like a LOOGY, and when he is he's a phenomenal reliever, but there were times when Ozzie abused the hell out of him last year. Wasserman had a shot at nabbing a niche role in the pen, but that fell through and I don't even know where he's at anymore. By far the biggest reason is that Kenny Williams likes his relievers to throw hard. It's hard to blame him. In those years mentioned above... 2008 - 5th in reliever WAR 2009 - 3rd in reliever WAR 2010 - 3rd in reliever WAR 2011 - 4th in reliever WAR It's funny, because in 2007, when the bullpen, along with everything else, failed miserably, people pointed out that Williams tried to essentially create a bullpen with nothing but velocity in it and that you couldn't do that. Not only is it ironic (NOTE: it's the good advice that you just didn't take) that 2007 was the last year when the White Sox didn't lead the league in reliever velocity, but it's also interesting to note that Williams had the right idea and just executed it very poorly that offseason. Your pitchers have to be good too, and he fixed that and has had the fixed very well for the past 4 seasons. I don't see why this season will be any different.