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QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ May 26, 2012 -> 02:10 AM) Who said anything about the best they could offer? Those guys are just what they need right now. A 3bman who can hit is exactly what the White Sox need.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 24, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Thanks for ruining my day, Wite. Atleast you weren't there with your girlfriend decked out in White Sox gear trying to show her how awesome baseball could be.

Greg, remember this game from 2010? Just realize that Jenks only got the loss in that game. (what's totally awesome is that there are going to be several people who know, without clicking the link, the exact game I'm talking about, because it was by far the worst baseball experience of my entire life)

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) All he has to say is Frank Thomas or Paul Konerko and nobody gives a s***. I'm not arguing, I'm just saying, those are two very well recognized names that people will always associate with the White Sox. Oh, and he doesn't have 2 seconds to look at a box score, but he does have time to do 2 nationally televised March Madness brackets. I generally don't care and I do agree with the general principle that any Presidential publicity is good publicity for a professional team, but don't excuse the fact that he doesn't know anybody because he's busy. Just say "he doesn't care that much about baseball but if he had to pick a team, because you do when you are a Chicagoan, he is a Sox fan first." It's much simple and causes me to make fewer posts like this one.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ May 22, 2012 -> 12:25 AM) So since you didnt previously know I was overweight why am I earning the nickname of this guy. It really just seemed to fit. I don't even care that you are/were overweight, it just fits. It's not in bad taste, that's one of my favorite characters of all time.

f***ING ALPACA OUT OF NOWHERE

I hereby nickname you......Flounder.

The Baltimore Orioles have the best record in the American League. The AL East is absurdly good this year. IT'S FACKING WICKED AHHHSOME Oh, also, I found a funny! He looks like a goomba from the Super Mario Brothers movie!

Craig Robinson, what would you give up for a White Sox World Series title?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 16, 2012 -> 12:04 AM) So back to the Angels. They're penned in by the Wells contract (http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2011/1/24/1953584/vernon-wells-contract-angels-trade-blue-jays), owing him $42 million for the next two seasons. But they get the Torii Hunter deal off the books after this season AND they've already jettisoned Abreu. Obviously, they have Trout in their future plans, but why wouldn't they just hold on to Bourjos for the remainder of this season, knowing they'll still need him in 2013 and beyond? What would the White Sox have to offer the Angels (that they need in present-tense since Pujols/Wilson put them firmly in "win now" territory) which would make the trade even worth doing for Anaheim? So, in the end, what's the best thing for the White Sox to do, trade Konerko and make Viciedo the primary 1B (sharing at-bats with Dan Johnson) with Dunn as the DH for two more years...making the OF DeAza/Bourjos/Rios...or trading Dunn and keeping Konerko? Sentimentally, most would argue for keeping Paulie (also because of the uncertainty about Viciedo's defense with another position move back to 1B and the fact Viciedo perhaps has his highest value in RF, compared to LF/1B/DH) and getting Dunn's contract off the books. The problem with that is Dunn is younger than Konerko, he's left-handed and he probably has a better chance of having two more excellent offensive seasons in 2013 and 2014 than Paulie does. Then you're still left with some difficult questions: 1) What pieces do you have to trade to acquire Bourjos 2) Will what's left of the starting rotation be enough to be competitive in 2013 and 2014? 3) Can they get anything back for Gavin Floyd which will make further weakening the starting rotation in 2013 worth it (long-term)? Or would they be better off exercising his 2013 option and waiting longer to trade him? 4) Is it worth it to keep Konerko and Dunn around if the team's still a 75-85 win proposition because of starting pitching issues? tl;dr This post could have ended after the third paragraph/stanza/whatever. The Angels aren't going to trade him unless they get a virtual king's ransom in return because they have a ton of money committed in the next few years, primarily through raises to current players. If you add up all the raises and team options likely to be picked up following the season, the Angels could very easily end up adding like $10-20 million even considering Hunter is coming off the books.

Eh, it's a long season. It wouldn't be a practical joke, but when funny s*** happens, you have to laugh. It's early in the season, the Nats aren't in a free fall, and they've played pretty well all year. Laugh it up and take the field tomorrow.

I'm not arguing for the Sox to trade for him. Having an incredible defensive CFer like that would take a decent defensive OF and make it the best defensive outfield in the Central and possibly the AL/MLB but it's not a drastic need and the cost to get him could very easily be Sale or something almost similar. You don't trade Sale, but if you do trade Sale (you don't), you trade him for a position of actual need like 3B (but you don't trade Sale so it's silly to consider it). But, to humor you, I'll play along. 1) The Sox wouldn't trade for Bourjos without first finding a new permanent home for Viciedo, whether that be at 1B with Konerko traded, at DH with Dunn traded, or by straight up trading Viciedo. 2) Considering defensive, offensive, and monetary value, I see the two combinations you mentioned as basically a push. But I don't see why you can't have your Dunn and Bourjos it too. 3) Just because Juan Pierre was with the Sox for the previous two seasons doesn't validate the comparison (unless your intentions are to suggest "Bourjos would be this much better and here's why"). Juan Pierre was a decent defensive LFer with the Sox who was good because he had speed to burn. His arm was terrible, he had no power, and he was quite obviously losing a step or two throughout the duration of his time with the Sox. Peter Bourjos gets great reads, has speed to burn, has a cannon for an arm, has pop in his bat, can steal bases (and will get better at it as he matures and refines his technique) and is young. It'd be similar to comparing Alexei Ramirez to Joe Crede or Paul Konerko to Carlos Quentin. Yeah, at some level it makes a bit of sense but in the general grand scheme of things they are incredibly different ballplayers.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 15, 2012 -> 09:52 PM) The problem with Bourjos is the same one we had with Juan Pierre taking up 600-700 at-bats, or we would have had with Reggie Willits, too. You can have ONE hitter in your outfield like that when you play 81 games at USCF. However, as the 8 run debacle proved today, once it heats up in the summertime, games are won at our park by 3 run homers. Speed and defensive ability helps, but not enough to offset fly ball pitchers unless those aforementioned outfielders have 40+ " vertical leaps and can rob numerous home run balls at the fence. You are comparing Peter Bourjos to Juan Pierre and Reggie Willits. From 2004 through today, spanning 5,328 plate appearances, Juan Pierre hit 12 home runs. That's a super sizzling rate of 444 PA/HR. If you tried to figure out Willits' career HR/PA, the world would explode. If he miraculously hit 1 tomorrow in his only plate appearance, he'd be at 1,015 PA/HR. Peter Bourjos, in 552 PAs last year, hit 12 home runs. It's not an other worldly total, but it's a hell of a lot more powerful than the 12 homers combined that Pierre and Willits have combined for in their previous 6,344 PAs. It's an absolutely terrible comparison. If there IS a comparison you can make, it's probably to someone like Carlos Gomez, but even then, I'd argue Bourjos is a better hitter.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 14, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) I had a dream last night that Lovie would be open to playing some 3-4 defense. Clearly it was a dream. Not sure why exactly you'd want that anyways. I understand that it's generally to a team's advantage to give different looks on occasion, but the biggest lineman on the 90-man roster is 2nd year player Jordan Miller at 315 lbs who has played as many games in the NFL regular season as you and I combined and the biggest player who gets any playing time at all is Toeaina at 307 lbs. They aren't even really equipped to play a 3-4 defense even in little bits unless they just want teams to audible to a run up the gut.

I turned this off when Danks left. Quite a nice surprise to see a win. Danks is garbage right now. He's not fooling anybody with anything.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ May 13, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) Dang why don't I remember that? Because nobody remembers the second half of last year

Sox should sign Joe Crede

Dating back to last season, Boston is 20-40 in their last 60 games. And I really don't think they're very good this year either. Probably above .500, but I don't think it'll be by much. In fact, they sorta remind me of the Mets from a few years back. It just feels like it's going to be a weird year in baseball all year. And I like it.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:41 AM) Who is ready for Cinco de Mayo?!?!?!? QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 6, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) I'm not allowed to drink anymore On the awesome scale, I give this an 8

QUOTE (Brian @ May 9, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) Watch Theo and crew sell high on LaHair this offseason to bring up their boy, Rizzo. That'll appease Cub fans. This isn't exactly Jose Bautista coming out of seemingly nowhere to put up monstrous but statistically sustainable seasons where the strikeouts and walks and HR/FB and BABIPs are all reasonable. This is more like Garrett Jones second half of 2009 where he got ridiculously hot and ridiculously lucky. In fact, let's compare the two. Garrett Jones - 2009 - 44 G, 190 PAs, 14 HR, .306/.368/.636/1.004, 20.5% K%, 9% BB% Bryan LaHair - 2011-12 - 48 G, 172 PAs, 10 HR, .345/.436/.662/1.098, 27.9 K%, 14.5 BB% (not going to cite much more, but in Jose Baustista's first 234 PAs in 2010, he walked 36 times and struck out 45, meaning in 60 fewer plate appearances, LaHair has struck out more and will probably not walk as much) Bryan LaHair is going to hit a wall.

I'm going to laugh when the Red Sox fire Bobby Valentine at the end of the season proving once and for all that the inmates are running the asylum in Boston. You just look at how the veterans on that team act and you can tell that Valentine is getting absolutely no respect. Cherington hired him, so the best thing he could do to show the players that he has his manager's back would be to trade a veteran. Sooo he can just flip Youkilis to the Sox for Morel and Stewart and we'll call it even, and then those players in Boston will REALLY know whose boss.

Maybe the best thing for a young arm really is to jerk it around.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 6, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) i mean i agree. i think he's great as a set up guy, always has been, always will be. now having Sale just makes it so damn crowded back there. it's stupid. I don't disagree with this.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 5, 2012 -> 11:12 AM) his K/9 this year is at a career low. so... the stats DONT prove otherwise, and it is you, sir, who is on a roll. Through 12 f***ing innings. If he strikes out the side in his next outing, he's right back to 9 K/9. I mean, I'm pissed about Sale too. It's stupid and there are so many reasons I'm upset. You don't have to take it out on Matt Thornton. He's just fine.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 6, 2012 -> 12:14 AM) Sweet thread bump. Yes, Dunn definitely appears to not be done. feet f Not only not done. He's good. We're getting this all year. I love Dunn. Its stupid how much easier his GW homer swing looks than Konerko's, yet Dunn's went aout 69 further. He's a f***ing stallion. He is, for lack of a better term, THE hengst.