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http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/...nded/order/true Leading the majors in blown saves...not just AL.

Does Hahn at least get credit for Orlando's throw (Sox prospect at one point) or blamed for Narvaez's poor silde and/or decision to send him by McEwing? And Tim Anderson really seems to be hitting a wall...hopefully he gets a second wind soon.

Yeah....why he's not getting more time makes little sense. Like playing Alexei so much last year down the stretch.

Expecting Sox fans to blindly support the current product with the Olympics, Cubs, preseason football soaking up attention...good luck. It would be one thing if we had high scoring offensive teams like 2000-2004, 2006, 2008, etc.

They'll likely give the job to Jones first based on their past history of going to veterans before turning to a rookie. Jenks was pretty much a no brainer adter Takatsu got figured out and Hermanson faded in 2005. On the other hand, thry gave Reed a lot of rope in 2012. At any rate, they won't just give the job to Burdi without Jones failing first imo.

Anderson needs to get that K percentage down from near 30 to the low 20s...watch Eaton more. He gets a ton of infield hits just making contact to the LH side of the field.

Four of last five save opportunities blown (by the bullpen overall)...now leading the entire AL with 21 blown saves. Bring on Burdi. At the very least, DFA Albers and let Kahnle, Ynoa and Turner give it a try. Ranaudo too, why not...

The return for Lawrie will give you the equivalent of a Hellickson or Miguel Gonzalez. At any rate, he's not worth any more now than a year ago. And the only reason to do that is if you're supremely confident in Saladino being an everyday 2b.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 05:19 PM) You do know that the 3 year thing was nonsense, right? Doesn't really need to be mentioned anymore Fine, but which of those players will the Sox realistically give four or five years to in your opinion? Other than Dunn, who turned out wonderfully, who is the last Sox player signed by the Sox for more than three years at age 30+ (see Cabrera for three and LaRoche for two)? Robertson was 29 and turned 30 the opening week of the 2015 season. Encarnacion or Ramos?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tim-tebow-get...-162751280.html In the tradition of MJ and Bo Bobbleheads...

http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/8/10/1242...st-helpful-time

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/2017...ngs-august.html Can anyone realistically see the Sox signing any of these guys? Overpaying for Michael Saunders and then watching him sit a year on the DL would be par for the course. Let's not forget the three year rule from last offseason will wipe out nearly everyone but Bautista and maybe Trumbo.

Hahn is a stealth genius.

There's not even a realistic option for two of those areas... But let's just say for argument's sake Dh is Morneau or Morales. They bring in Gomez or Rasmus for CF and shock the world by signing Ramos at catcher. Still not convincing that wins you anything at all in the AL...we'd have to win the Central. Eaton Cabrera Abreu Morneau or Morales Frazier Ramos Lawrie/Saladino Gomez or Rasmus Anderson Cespedes is a no go. The question is how much signing Ramos would cost, and whether Hahn will forsake the draft pick. We likely end up with two needs sort of addressed in a win now/veterans or bust way but don't solve the vexing catching problem. You put Avila there at the bottom instead of Ramos and you're maybe the 9th-11th offense in the AL, optimistically.

Let's hope he is a better reliever than Poreda, Ring and Reed. At least Addison had "plus" value where he was selected. Some WAR magician will make him out to be a bargain if he's halfway decent, surely. Let's also hope he is more effective than Carson has been out of the pen or Hahn will look even more foolish since there's no compelling reason to push him at this point...that might have been the case were/with Robertson dealt at the deadline.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) And to close so there can be Tebowing after every save. Fans will be used to it already since half of them already do it whenever Robertson escapes one of the hideous jams he typically finds himself in. Bring back the Takatsu Gong. Of course, that wouldn't survive the political correctness police a decade plus later...

Gomez and Rasmus (out of position a bit) likely are the two best CF options this offseason...unless you can conceive of the Royals trading Cain to the Sox next July and KW/JR getting him to sign a huge extension to forgo free agency. That would fit the Sox historical trend of adding name players 2-3 years past their primes. For some reason, Kendrys Morales as DH next season feels about equally likely as Morneau at this point. It all depends on Justin's desire to play for a contender again.

Let's just put it this way. If they (those in the front office) really and truly believe Robertson has been fantastic, then it's no surprise why we are mired in mediocrity. So one has to logically assume Jones, Burdi and returns to health from at least one of Piutnam and Petricka are the real plan for next year...perhaps along with Fulmer. What's not clear is why Robertson is still clogging up the payroll.

Yes, everyone has been put on waivers...everyone. Just a way of assessing value. And you're right, NY might be all in again next year too, in the same sense the White Sox are...but they can at least sell it better with Clint Frazier added to the mix. We've gotten locked into a situation where we are adding more and more 30+ exploding contracts (Shields, Encarnacion, Bautista, McCann, etc.) It just won't work because the payroll will run out first. It's also yet another reason they should have cleared Robertson or Shields for next year...and rolled the dice with Jones, Burdi, etc. Now they're stuck yet again in terms of next year's roster, minus a boost to the $150-175 million range, which would be completely unprecedented.

Have you watched Chapman get hit at 103-104? You can't get away with just one pitch in the majors...we'll see how his other stuff develops. It's back to the philosophy of letting him get beat up a bit (with the Sox) and then he'll be likelier to take coaching advice. It's easy to see Hahn using the Hansen pick as his out...we love Zach's arm a lot, his stuff's just too good right now not to utilize along with our current win now assets this year and going into another contending season in 2017. We have also received a slew of glowing reports on the progress of Alec and believe he'll be ready for the rotation by mid 2018, etc. Right now, we have a really positive situation with competition for the starting rotation and don't have to push any of our young guys like Carson too much because they're all experienced veterans diwn there, even Carlos Rodon with two years under his belt. When, not if, Carlos takes the next step, we'll have one of the best rotations in the majors.

We won't sign Encarnacion...Bautista seems more likely in a one and done scenario. McCann could be ours today with a waiver claim, but that's extremely unlikely. Feels like the solution has to come from Korea (hitter), Japan or Cuba. They're going to have to get a rebound season from someone like Yasiel Puig, with a manager he can actually get along with...maybe not him, but a similar risky player with some amount of reward built in (see Contreras, Carl Everett, Dye and AJ back in 2003-2005). Juan Uribe was also brought on board in similar circumstances after quickly wearing out his welcome in Colorado. Fulmer's not close to ready for the rotation unless 5 mph on his fastball returns.

We can promise Cespedes unlimited golf outings with Hawk on the road...

So now blown saves are only significant if the team loses...not affecting the overall confidence of the team or starting pitchers in any way? By that argument, Danny Wright was a highly valuable of the White Sox rotation when he won 14 games with a 5+ ERA in 2012. You pay David Robertson elite money...you better get something close to that. And with a sub .500 team, he's irrevelant except for soaking up payroll dollars that should first go to catcher, DH and CF.

Would have been better off just sending him back to the Yankees last year...yeah yeah, but we wouldn't have started out 23-10 with Jones as the closer, right? You can just as easily argue Hahn would have had to find multiple options for the pen with no Robertson entering the year, leaving the pen essentially at the same productivity but cheaper in terms of overall cost...freeing up more money for hitting.

Not to mention that blown game against KC that was far from a save situation...