TomPickle

Also, the clock is already ticking on the 'competitive window' with Moncada, Lopez, Giolito and Anderson already at the MLB level. I'm not going to be mad or disappointed if Eloy and Kopech don't get called up this year, but I also don't quite get where people are coming from when they think there is no point to either getting called up this year.

Entirely scouting the stat line here, but I wouldn't mind Daulton Varsho if the Diamondbacks are looking to add before the trade deadline.

If the White Sox got a top 15 (in the Sox system) prospect for Soria I'd be very pleased.

that's a spicy meatball

Harper is either going to get $400 million from a team or sign a one year deal for $30 million+ Herrera: gets the standard 3 year reliever deal for $33 million Brantley: 3 years and $40 million Moustakas: 3 years and $40 million Harvey: 1 year, $8 million Kuechel: 4 years, $72 million I guess it's hard to project out since the free agent market totally cratered last year. I don't think those are totally unreasonable amounts and that's just under $600 million.

I hate to break it to you, but the White Sox are not going to spend $600 million+ in free agency next off season for a chance at winning 90 games.

If in August next year the White Sox have this team out there C - Collins/Castillo 1B - Abreu 2B - Moncada SS - Anderson 3B - Sanchez LF - Jimenez CF - Still Adam Engel Somehow RF - Garcia DH - Palka/Davidson SP - Rodon SP - Lopez SP - Giolito SP - Kopech SP - Cease/Hansen/Dunning/Fulmer Bullpen - Fry, Then I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the team is still going to be pretty mediocre. Based on the way this season has gone I don't think it makes any sense to spend money in free agency other than filling in gaps in the bullpen or possibly a short term deal for a CF that would sign for cheap. I don't think it is out of the question that team loses 100 games. I think it's more likely than that team going .500.

I think at this point they probably figure they just have to own it and hope he plays up to that level. It wouldn't look any better for them to drop him for seemingly no reason.

If you click on their name you get a scouting report with tools and it lists their pre-season rank as well.

Wouldn't it be really hard for the Phillies to pull that off? They only have the 12th biggest draft pool because they don't have 2nd or 3rd round pick. They would have to punt a lot of other picks to go way over slot with the third pick.

I also find the reasons why Singer would be at the top of the board to be extremely dubious. I know make-up is important, but when you hear that as the first thing out of somoene's mouth when they mention why they like Singer does not inspire confidence in me. That and some of the rumors that poor performance from Giolito/Fulmer and Hansen's injury concerns also seem like a bad reason to have a guy climb your draft board. Hopefully this year and next year are the last two drafts for a long while where the White Sox will be drafting in the top 5. I don't want to waste a pick on a 'bulldog' to miss out on the best player available. I know this draft is a little light on top tier talent so it's a little easier to understand, but it's hard to not think of this being more of the same from the White Sox.

Pretty agnostic who gets picked at #4. If Madrigal and Bohm are both there, which looks more likely now that it did up until pretty recently I would be a little upset if they went with Singer, but it is what I am expecting to happen. I am fully on the Kyler Murray hype train for the second round, but there are a bunch of guys there I would be fine with taking. If a "safe" pick is used at #4 I want a couple high ceiling guys in the first five rounds.

Can you change the prefix on this one to "FFS"?

I am so hyped for Ohtani. I know we are still at a super small sample size, but he's the most interesting player I have ever seen.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 10:06 PM) Worst thread ever. OP is normally a good contributor to this forum, but this fud here is a joke. Even if Moncada maxes out at .250 this year, I am not going to start being worried about his development until we get at least 2 full years in and he's not hitting better than Gordon Beckham did. It's somewhere between possible and likely that Moncada doesn't hit .250 this year so I don't think that's a reasonable floor to set. I would be happy with a sub 30% K rate and/or a .350+ OBP.

I came into this thread to say that after being on two different top 100s in a row that maybe the Rutherford detractors would maybe cool it, but it looks like I'm already wrong about that.

Eloy is a step above Lewis Brinson as a prospect. There isn't really a good comparable package the Sox could have put together, at least piece for piece. Everyone that was saying that the prospect cost for Yelich was prohibitive for the Sox were definitely right though.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 08:23 PM) That's wild. I'm kinda surprised his wRC+ is so high. Elevated because of baserunning then? That's part of it, yeah, but wRC+ also takes into account GIDPs. Devers has 5 and Moncada has 0.

Updated top 100: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/summer-top-100-prospects/ 1. Yoan Moncada, 2B, Chicago White Sox 4. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Chicago White Sox 9. Michael Kopech, RHP, Chicago White Sox 35. Lucas Giolito, RHP, Chicago White Sox 37. Luis Robert, OF, Chicago White Sox 38. Reynaldo Lopez, RHP, Chicago White Sox 99. Blake Rutherford, OF, Chicago White Sox Cease listed as an honorable mention, but not Hansen.

A ball in play!

I'm fine with the return, but his home/road splits are pretty concerning. Home (Colorado Springs): 1.059 OPS Away: .673 OPS

If the White Sox don't win a game for the rest of the year they'll probably have a pretty good draft pick in next year's draft.

I can't believe I'm as suckered into this thread as I am, but oh well. I do not hate this idea if he can be brought in for a minimal return. 2017: 14.5 MM - Basically takes the place of Frazier's deal for the rest of the year, shouldn't impact much of anything 2018: 25 MM - Hopefully the only truly sunk cost year as the White Sox will be terrible, but the rest of the salaries on the team shouldn't make this unpalatable 2019-20: 26 MM - White Sox should start to compete and might even be good during this time (He could also opt out after 2020! He won't) 2021-22: 29 MM - Still looking okay here, he'll be 31-32 during these years and if all goes well with the rebuild the White Sox should be competing for a World Series 2023-25: 32 MM - Starting to get ugly, undoubtedly he'll be on the decline and that is a lot of money to eat for what I'm sure will be a DH for a giant 33-35 year old human 2026: 29 MM - Bad money to a 36 year old 2027: 25MM - The end of the road! Only after a 10 MM buyout for 2028 that is There's probably about 130-160 million dollars worth of bad contract there, but the first five years might be worth it.

I would do Avi for Stanton. Probably throw in a couple low level guys too if they wanted a bigger return.