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I didn't say he couldn't be moved, I said we wouldn't get anything interesting for him.

Flexen sucks. He has a 5.13 ERA and a 5.03 FIP and last year had a 6.86 ERA with a 6.22 FIP. There is no chance that we get an interesting piece for him in a trade. Dude sometimes you make some really good posts and then other times you say the most ridiculous things. Riley Gowens is a 24 year old in A ball with a mid 4 ERA. He is not a pretty good pitching prospect.

They just don't spend the money they do have wisely. Were paying approx. $4.75 million to Maldonado and Stassi. One is arguably the worst player in baseball and the other is not going to play at all. Should have just found out what you had in Korey Lee and signed some defensive only guy off the scrap heap. Ill just assume that we HAD to take Nicky Lopez in that Atlanta deal, otherwise there's another $4.3 million wasted. The DeJong signing is one that they got right. Dirt cheap, and we may get an asset out of it. Tommy Pham is in the same boat, dirt cheap again and we may get an asset out of him. Clevinger and Flexen, another $4.75 million wasted. Nobody is interested in Clevinger and Flexen is awful. They could have thrown AAA guys out there if they just wanted a guy to eat innings to a tune of 5-6 ERA. And the bullpen, jesus. Brebbia $4 million. Soroka $3 million (Again, ill assume we had to take him in the deal with Atlanta) Just throwing away money on useless players. I would rather they just invest that into scouting and development instead of one season of worthless baseball.

The problem is they never claimed it was a rebuilding year, matter of factly they acted more like they were trying to contend in the central until the wheels exploded off and the cart plummeted to a fiery death almost instantly into the trip.

Well that's an easy answer, they are making money the way they are running things. Who cares if Johnny Deepdish is pissed about it. Its a business, JR is here to make money.

Defensively, no. But Nicky Lopez is still a 0.0 bWAR player who wont be here next season so yeah, there is still no answer in sight for the future of the position on this team.

Julks.. .179 avg and .555 OPS in June.

Moncada is certainly better than anyone else we could put there. Eloy is just as worthless and the rest of the trash on this roster.

Assuming I know the "key" players you are referring to, I think you actually mean key player. Benintendi and Vaughn sucked last year, and continue to suck this year. Its because they aren't good, they aren't slumping. Moncada and Jiminez sucked last year, and continue to suck and get injured this year. The only key player we lost in this was Luis Robert, who continues to get hurt every year.

With how the seasons going, should definitely flip the roles and have the same person start the thread and if they win someone else starts it

Trading Fedde for a prospect or two that can help this team for 6+ years soon is very valuable for our situation.

The options are either to trade him now at his highest value, literally will never be higher than this moment right now, or watch him leave as a free agent after next season.

I would want Miller (55), Crawford (55), and Caba (55) from Philly for Robert. I would want Mayo (55), Beavers (50), and McDermott (50) from Baltimore. I would want Chourio (55) from Cleveland. That kind of haul would go a long way to rebuilding this dumpster fire.

There's no way they set the MLB record. The team record however, really is going to depend on who gets shipped out of here over the next month. The post trade deadline limp to the finish is going to be brutal.

There's still plenty of time for Kopech to get some appearances and up his value. Guys who throw 100+ MPH and strikeout 13 per nine typically get a longer leash.

He wouldn’t pay two, if Grifol is fired they wouldn’t hire someone immediately there would be an interim manager whose already on staff being paid.

Outside of Fedde and Crochet, there’s nothing valuable here. Even Robert, who was worth three kings ransoms in the offseason, is suddenly worthless now and posters are ok with a couple 45 prospects just to get rid of him lol

You know, I was honestly skeptical this team would really lose 120 games. Still don’t think we see that but it seems almost a certainty they lose at least 110 games.

Call your friends, the no shut out streak may be coming to an end

Hopefully they just cover 100% of the contracts to move some of these guys.

This would be such an awful trade lol

Benintendi has got to be the worst player in this franchises history

Ok, so why is he still managing this team? There is no discount for firing him in the offseason.

I’m trying to wrap my head around the benefit of firing him in the offseason as opposed to already. I think they know this is a rebuild and they think Pedro is their guy.

I believe this now makes the Sox 1-17 against central teams not from Cleveland. Oof.