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1. Kopech -- great attitude, wants to learn, and has generational talent. 2. Moncada -- 5 strong tools but, call me an idiot, his arrogant swagger and twinkie diet concern me. Seems entitled. 3. Jiminez -- Great head on his shoulders and is willing to put in the work. Young Dye comps make me very happy. 4. Lopez -- This is a guy who needs to be called up and work with Coop. Outside of Kopech, I think he has the potential to have the best stuff in the system, potential #1 on many teams. 5. Giolito -- The fact he faded so much as a prospect but has worked his way back speaks volumes to his mentality. I have high hopes. 6. Robert -- Great swing on a practice field, great tools and body, but need to see him playing in the states at a higher level before buying the hype. 7. Cease -- Potential for greatness is there but health and durability have to be concerns. 8. Dunning -- I should probably rank him higher as I think he has a ton of potential but would like to see him advance in the system before rising in rankings. 9. Basabe -- Eh 10. Flete/Diaz/Rose -- Don't know enough about them.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 08:24 PM) Why do people act like Gavin Floyd is a bad thing? In his 7 years here he pulled an ERA+ of 105. He also gave us 1000+ IP in about 5 and a half seasons of work. He is the kind of guy you would love to have in the 3 or 4 slot in your rotation. Not to mention, many of the issues Sox fans had with Gavin were with how timid he was on the mound and in his approach. He was just weak mentally, from what I saw. His stuff was incredible. If Gio has Floyd's stuff with a stronger head on his shoulders, you're looking at a pretty damn good #2 or #3 starter.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) Oh, I'd much rather rely on Q. Even as good as they've been, I feel the Astros are setting themselves up for disappointment in the postseason. To some extent, they feel like the 2001 Mariners - coast all the way to the postseason with the best record in the AL (though the Astros won't have the best record of all time) only to get eliminated by a team with much better pitching. I mean, their bullpen is outrageously good, so if they can just get 4-5 innings out of their starters, they may be able to get by, but that's a lot to count on. I was talking to an Astros fan buddy of mine and he truly has no concern about the pitching staff. He said that they can hit their way out of any deficit. I pointed out that in the postseason it usually comes down to the stronger pitching staff and he seemed to believe that that rule wouldn't apply with an offense like theirs. He wants them to stand pat. It makes zero sense and, as you say, we've seen time and again the team with amazing offense come up short in the postseason. Hell, Astros fans forget about 2005 already?

What a haul! #1 and #2 Cub prospects (#8 and #63 MLB overall). Sox now have 3 of top 11 prospects in MLB (1,8,11) and 8 prospects in the top 100.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 5, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Anyone have an estimation on how much more a year it would cost per person in taxes for universal healthcare? Curious. I don't have any data to back this up but, if they did it right with drug pricing, etc., I believe most Americans would come out ahead being any increase in taxes would be immediately offset by the elimination of insurance premiums and deductibles.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2017 -> 08:36 AM) Never heard of this guy but is hilarious. NSFW That is an insane video. Pretty dope.

Any of y'all checked out Here Lies Man? I don't know what to make of their debut released early last month. It's truly some of the coolest s*** I've heard in a good while but the album seems kind of repetitive/lacking. It's like a amalgam of BadBadNotGood, Filter, Sun Ra, and maybe Jimmy Smith? Really great sound coming out of LA.

Also, I get the whole idea of drafting a guy ahead of slot due to the needs of the franchise. I about flipped my s*** when TEN drafted Davis 5 overall as I thought that was waaaayyy too early, then I saw the only other 2 decent (3 if you count McCaffrey) WR go right after us in the top 10 picks. That said, TEN didn't trade away 4 draft picks for that privilege.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 02:24 PM) Well this is impossible to guess at but I think youre wrong. 2001, only 1 QB was picked in first (Vick) Brees went in 2nd. 2005, 3 QBs taken in 1st (Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell), unclear if hed grade out above Campbell. Lets go more recent. 2016- probably comparable to Paxton Lynch, may have been late 1st, maybe early 2nd. 2015- May have been late first, but graded out under Mariotta/Winston. 2014- Better than Carr/Garrapolo? Unclear so likely 2nd. 2013- Definitely would have been 1st. This class is most comparable to this years. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position The issue is that this is one of the weakest drafts at QB since 2013. I think 2013 is worse, but again not one QB went in the top 10 that year. This is entirely speculative, but I think that in 2014 Trubisky would have absolutely been a 2nd rounder at best. What this guy said

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) This Browns FO didn't pick many of those QBs. The draft history is irrelevant. Plus, I completely understand Ryan Pace wanting a quarterback. He's a Saints guy, after all. Same crap ownership.

Also, if you're in a bidding war with the f***ing Cleveland Browns over a QB, given their amazing history of QBs drafted, you should probably realize you're looking at the wrong guy.

I'm a Titans fan but have family who are Bears fans... If you're getting an undisputed stud QB -- polished, experienced, intangibles, great arm, etc. -- by all means, trade up at any cost to get a guy you can say with >85% certainty will be AT LEAST a serviceable QB for years to come. Mitch Trubisky is not, in any way, that player. We're talking about a guy who is a 2nd or 3rd rounder in most draft years who was the SECOND OVERALL PICK! That's insane. Much less that the Bears traded 4 valuable picks to have the honor of getting a guy with a ceiling of mediocrity and the floor of a career third-string journeyman. I'm not a UNC fan but saw plenty of Trubisky last season to form a reasonable opinion of his abilities. This justification with statements like, "IF he becomes a franchise QB, blah blah blah..."......look, this guy does not have the talent to be a "franchise QB". Awful, awful, awful move.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 3, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) No one forced you to show up when the forecast was sh** all along. No sure what you expected. They obviously want to get the game in if possible on OD. Yes, because after paying $115/tkt, just "not showing up" is the logical choice.

As I sit here with my dumbass poncho waiting for baseball to be played, I'm trying to imagine a worse way the Sox could've handled this. I'm coming up blank. Still forecast to be relatively clear tomorrow. As someone coming from out of town every year for OD, this is really frustrating.

They aren't saying anything here at the park. Getting kind of pissed with the lack of information. Reminds me of the 2nd game last season when the upper deck was iced over and they delayed entry to the park without letting anyone know why. Starting to come down pretty good again.

Marchman is hilarious and I hope he keeps this up all season. I've followed him both on Deadspin and Twitter for a good while...he's definitely a hardcore Sox fan.

108791 worked for me, as well. Thanks for the code!

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) He's had zero pressure. It's like the pressure of a back up QB vs a starter. Neither has Chris Sale....is he an ace?

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:09 PM) Absolute love the trade. High ceiling pitchers that our system lacked. I think we will see the 2015 Giolito and Cooper will have him go back to his old mechanics and add a cutter to his arsenal. I love Dunning Throws three plus pitches. Needs at least 2 years of development, but has a chance to be a #3 SP. My thought on Lopez is a reliever, but a dam good one. I think Lopez tiny stature and lack of breaking ball will put him in the bullpen. With a great chance to being high leverage RP in the late innings. Lopez has an outstanding curve and glimpses of a plus-change. He'll definitely be a starter, imo. He's 6' 185...not talking about a tiny guy here.

QUOTE (TRU @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) We've never seen anything that suggests this ownership will ever pay the price it will take for a marquee free agent. I'm not saying we sign a Bryce Harper, I'm saying we will be willing to sign guys on that 2nd or 3rd rung of the ladder which, if things work out, will be plenty enough to push us over the top.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) Market conditions are in the favor of sellers when it comes to pitching. Not a lot of quality starting pitching out there in FA and not a lot that are on the block. This is the time to strike. THIS! The FA P market, especially SP, is pitiful this season...Hahn should take as much advantage of this market as he possibly can. That leaves Melky, Frazier, and Abreu as position players, none of which had great seasons last year. I think Melky should be dumped now for whatever you can get. Deal Frazier now because I don't feel he's going to improve much over last season's numbers. Jose I'd go either way....he really struggled first half of last season but finished strong which could lead rival GMs to believe that first half was just an aberration or you hang onto him and hope and pray that he doesn't repeat that first half this season, diminishing his value at the deadline.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) OK, one thing we should know as Sox fans is that there is zero chance of them bidding on top line free agents when we are going to be coming off of two completely terrible season. We don't do that coming off of good seasons. I don't know why this has taken traction, but look at the White Sox free agent history, and tell me why there is any answer other than no. Their salary will likely be between $40-50M in 2019. Even if they just move to $100M, weak for a big market team, you're talking 2-3 impact players to augment a young, talented, and exciting roster.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:08 PM) Although in the second half of this season, Giolito's FB was 92-96 and he got pounded with that pitch (at the MLB level, at least). Before that, yeah...upper 90's. Interestingly, he was quite effective with the rest of his off-speed repertoire, which is the key to any "stuff" pitcher moving from thrower to pitcher. Lopez actually passed Giolito in the eyes of many observers and throws almost as hard. Hopefully Cooper can figure out a way to smooth out Giolito and Spencer Adams, who almost becomes forgotten now after being one of the few gems of the system a year ago. My post was in reference to Lopez. Greg asked why his signing bonus was something ridiculously low like $18k.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Sounds good on Giolito. Thanx for info. Why did Lopez only cost the Nats $17,000 to acquire? Sounds like he may not be a sure bet. His fastball was topping out in the high 80's when he signed at age 18. He can now reach triple digits and sustainable high 90's.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Great great post. Total overhype. Sale was and is a true ace. Q is close to ace. Rodon has gained valuable experience and looks pretty stellar. These Nats guys are FAR from sure bets. How has Giolito looked since he had Tommy John? Is he still a top pitcher prospect or not?? He's healthy. I think biggest things for him are working on his mechanics to make them more reliably repeatable and perhaps work on a cutter/2-seamer to offset his straight-as-an-arrow 4 seam. I don't think his stuff is as electric to watch as a Lopez or Kopech with his 4seam averaging about about 95mph, but he's just a damn good pitcher who can consistently miss bats and/or draw weak contact (if that makes sense).