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QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Sep 23, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) Let me clarify, I was speaking in terms of the fans. For the fans to go through this miserable season it was about a top three pick. You all know that I am right no matter how much you deny it. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to track that pick, and going through the pages the evidence is clear that everyone wants a top 2 pick. People even wanted to lose to the Cubs to get a better pick, which is something I'd never cheer for, F them. I wasn't on board for the rebuild at first but everyone wanted a top 2 pick for sure out of this draft. Everyone in fact wanted Beer with number 1 I believe. The organization wants development but we didn't, that's the letdown I'm talking about. Because we had to suffer through this season, and to get the 5th pick is a letdown. As far as the guy who says we don't see eye to eye, I could give a crap to to be honest. ukalukadoodoo

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 23, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) Ha ha. Wasn't this guy turning out to be a total bust in the minors? At least they got some production out of him. Wasn't this one of those bad player for bad player trades? Davidson was a top 100 prospect when we traded Addison Reed for him.

One of the best plays in baseball this year, considering context. Bonehead running KC.

Greg, let's just build a fire and sing kumbaya. You can keep the Miller lite all for yourself too.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) MLB Trade Rumors‏ @mlbtraderumors 59m59 minutes ago Tigers Will Not Retain Brad Ausmus https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/09/tigers-will-not-retain-brad-ausmus.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...d-ausmus.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...d-ausmus.html … For the record - f*** the Tigers.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:37 PM) Indians lost. Astros 1.5 behind for AL HFA. For the record - f*** the Astros.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) The Yankees are gonna win 90+ games and lose a one game coin flip to a .500 team. ? That would be so freaking awesome

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 07:57 AM) The White Sox finally got Chris Sale into the playoffs! He's gonna be bananas to watch - regardless of results the dudes going to be off the rails.

QUOTE (mcbrides @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 10:22 PM) A Lester like signing would be ideal, but as is happening now you can only hope for three years of production. Our "Lester" will come in 2019 or 2020. Edit: and I hope his name is Sale. Wake me up when I'm not dreaming

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 10:04 PM) No offense, but if this was Moncada's stat line folks would be saying, "It's his first season, darn it. Give him a chance. Relax. he'll be fine." Because it's Davidson ... ugh his first season's 26 homers? Throw 'em back in the water; small fish to fry. Need bigger fish. See I care that it's his first season. I think those numbers are ... OK? How many rookies in Sox history have had 26 homers? Pete Ward would have killed to hit 26 home runs for Chicago. The issue with that logic is that Davidson has shown in almost 150 MLB games and over his entire minor league career that he's a one way player at the dish. He's never had an average over .250 or an OBP over .300 at level above AA in his career. If that was the case for Moncada then he wouldn't be considered a potential franchise cornerstone. Edit: Also, the one dimensional performance boasting 26 home runs has also only amounted to -0.7WAR as has already been pointed out. I don't care if a hitter is crushing 50 homers a year if they're a defensive liability and can't even sniff an OBP above .250. Davidson IMO will turn out to be a bench player for a team who isn't contending after he gets another go with us in 2018 as a starter. Hope he can for the first time as a pro hit for a decent average, develop his eye so he gets on base, and turns into a good third baseman. That's asking a lot.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:06 AM) Yeah, I also liked that he recognizes he has a hitch in his swing and asked the Sox if they could until the off season to work on fixing it. Makes sense with him focusing so much on the defensive side of his game during the season. Was it the uncertainty of Collins sticking at Catcher that you weren't a fan of? IIRC, that was the concern for some folks on draft day. Collins for me was behind others available with my preference. Some of which haven't turned out as well as he has and one other who is actually now in our farm. I didn't care for the hitch in his swing and didn't know enough of him defensively to be stoked on the pick. He was also the first pick under the new regime - before we knew of their now two year long philosophy of evaluating hitters. By no means did I hate the pick and quickly gave him some trust. A year and a half later, I'm happy about him and more hopeful.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 01:41 PM) I'm highly enamored with the HS class this year. Same here, brother

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:27 PM) This season was about obtaining a top 3 pick, if we get fourth or 5th it will be a letdown. I don't mind wins that occur because our future plays great, but these wins where guys who wont be here make the difference suck. Just like the Bears needed to be in top position to grab a qb last year, and the Bulls need a top 3 pick to grab one of the three studs coming into the NBA next year. We just don't see eye to eye and rather than spending time debating a dead horse, I'll instead just say ukalukadoodoo and leave it at that. ukalukadoodoo.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:52 PM) Phillies lost, Detroit lost, Giants lost....Sox....won. 0.5 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick 2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick 2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick 9 games left for the Sox. Buckle up folks - it's gonna be a fun ride.

QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) By "this board", do you mean rational adults who are not wowed by 26 HRs and instead see a terribly flawed baseball player that currently boasts a .222 AVG, .264 OBP, .716 OPS, -0.7 WAR, lackluster defense and mediocre minor league numbers? Please, get started.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:18 PM) It's over man. The Sox can't seem to do anything right these days. This win sucked because Yoan had the bomb but our youth of the future wasn't the big part of it. If they don't get at least a top two pick this season is a failure. No reason to be winning so many useless games when other teams are tanking hard. Sorry dude - we just don't see eye to eye on many regards.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 09:02 PM) I will say this. Its a different kind of game thread. Even in the inning where the Sox came back with the 5 run 4th all the talk was about how Lopez looked . No mention of the Anderson RBI. No mention of the Davidson 2 run HR. Only when Moncada hit the other 2 run bomb did people comment. A wise man once said, "for these times, they are a changin."

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 08:44 PM) Sox and Reds have 17 combined games. 6 have to be Sox losses or Reds wins for the Sox to get the 4th pick. That better happen. Don't give up hope man... 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all still in sight. ??

Here comes "the slide" ?

QUOTE (Scoots @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Did Melky always play with his back pocket hanging out? I recall him doing it all the time when he was with us.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 05:47 PM) ...even if the worst happens, picking 5th wouldn't be the end of the world. Truth. I just selfishly want to cut off speculation above us so we can all speculate endlessly without restriction.

Alrighty - love the Moncada bomb but I really hope we lose this game in the 8th or 9th.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 05:26 PM) The Tigers are getting a top 2 pick. I have no doubt about that. Certainly seems like it

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 02:47 PM) Surprised nobody else posted this. Quite a long article but worth reading when you get some time. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/magazine...=www.google.com Someone had an 85,000 word quota to meet. Seriously thou... good stuff.

To quote Maynard James Keenen, "wait it out, be patient."