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If anyone was still worried Abreu might be traded, I think Cruz only getting 14 should help ease your mind a little. I understand they aren't the same player, but I think it cements the fact that Jose is worth "about" what he is being paid, therefore shouldn't/wouldn't bring much of anything back in return... therefore the Sox aren't turning down prospects for keeping Abreu.

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Heyward is worth $100,000,000 less than his contract. I think it would be shocking to see who the Cubs would have to include to move him. I know Sox fans went from seemingly excited about a rebuild to completely fucking over-it during this offseason thanks to HarpchadoGate but I'd be VERY tempted to use the flexibility in payroll the Sox have to acquire some of these horrible contracts and stack another half a dozen top prospects in the system. If you cut a player can you take their entire luxury tax hit that same year? Or does their contract stay on the books exactly as it was signed?

I feel like the Dodgers are too smart and have too much going for them to give Harper 10/400.

Michael J Duarte knows exactly zero "rival executives". No rival executive would be "blown away" if a player that is under contract on a contending team isn't traded, let alone to a specific team.

Macado Odds at BetDSI: Yankees -130 Phillies +250 White Sox +300 Field +450 This is by the far the "best odds" the offshore sportsbooks have given the Sox of signing either of the big two. With that being said I know they have very low limits on these mlb futures and that likely means their handicappers probably put very little time into the oddsmaking.

So, if Machado picks the Phillies or the White Sox, wouldn't that be detrimental to Harper's negotiations? I'm telling y'all, if both players genuinely thought only the same few teams were in-play for both of them there would be significantly more urgency in this process.

If Manny is going to sign with either the Phillies or the White Sox he will sign before Christmas.

I'll just throw this out there: I think the fact that Harper nor Machado seem to be in no rush to sign, points towards an increased chance that Machado was always going to the Yankees and that Cashman truly wasn't interested in Harper. I would think neither player would want to lose a bidder (Phillies/Sox) by letting the other player sign first. At the very least I would think there would be more talk of a deal being close if either player really was interested in Philadelphia or Chicago and actually believed the other player was as well.

Yonder just said he will be at Sox Fest on MLB Network

Ironic title because "line up" is all you get to do at SoxFest.

I/We are comparing Arenado away from Coors to other third basemen. But since you really want to know, Nolan ranked 17th among 3B that had 100 PAs. AFTER every one of those players listed. Arenado is not a $300,000,000 player.

Third basemen that had a higher OPS than "Road Arenado" in 2018 Machado, Muncy, Turner, Bregman Ramirez, Rendon, Carpenter, Chapman, Andujar, Bryant, Freese, Shaw, Camargo, Escobar, Donaldson, Profar

Similar to Zack Burdi getting sat down for a "general soreness" with a few weeks left in AZL. My gut feeling is both players got precisely the work they and the club wanted them to get in. Problem is these leagues don't necessarily want players to come and go as they please so you have to sugar-coat it.

Well, I think the opt outs on these particular deals are worth tens of millions of dollars in value, so I do not take them lightly, but the ONLY chance the Sox are truly interested in signing both players (meaning getting both this offseason) is if the opt outs are very player friendly so they are all but assured that one or both will opt out after 4/5 years.

I'd probably try to do the floss.

And if Hahn acquired a player that was even an average framer this would have made at least some sense.

Guy has 40,000 posts and tells people they are insane for discussing one of the 25 players that will be on the team next season immediately after he is acquired.

I think the outrage is over Hahn trading the #5 offensive catcher in 2018, who is Pre-arb in exchange for a reliever that makes about what he'd get on the free market.... seemingly because Narvaez was poor defensively. Meaning you gave him away for little to nothing. THEN turning around and replacing him with a very similar (poor defense) if not worse player for more money.

So because your take was brutal (talking about McCann's upside and defensive prowess) now it doesn't matter because he is just a backup catcher?

The only explanations I can come up with are: 1. Hahn overestimated what free agent relievers were going to get (he thinks/thought Colome is a bargain at his arb #) or 2. The organization really didn't like Narvaez and preferred paying McCann double to having Omar with control remaining.

Or have one stinking ounce of upside. McCann has 1700 plate appearances.

Those should cost $500k, not $2.5 million.

Narvaez was bilingual as well.

You are forgetting that you'd have Narvaez and $9,000,000 to spend on a reliever or Colome and McCann.