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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) That's good information right there. I can see now why that makes an interesting option, but isn't it true that the Sox and Burdi seem happy with the present course of action? He's not starting. He will be the closer in Charlotte

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 04:34 PM) There will be a lot of boos in the Cell this year. There are a lot more fans like me than those who love Sabes and rebuilds. Fans like me will be staying away in droves once the team opens 1-10 and loses at an unprecedented rate. What is proper fan decorum this year? Cheer when the other team scores? And just observe our guys for potential trades? Or cheer for the Sox all the way til the late innings and then root for the other team to rally and win? Somebody needs to explain proper fan decorum this year considering losses are good. You're a special man.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 04:43 PM) \ In the league???? It will cost more to go to a Charlotte Knights game this year. Yes. A report came out the other day saying the Sox have the cheapest tickets in baseball.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Don't think he's going to be a top 3 pick though. Same with Baker. Yeah he may not be. College corner players just don't go that high and it's a loaded class.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) I am interested in seeing how I react. I've paid close attention to every season for a long time. But losing game after game is probably going to be the end of my fandom unless I somehow consider all the losing comical. Since I'm not a draft guy, I don't trust our front office to draft the right guys so I don't care about the draft at all. I do have mlb.com again cause I forgot to cancel the automatic recharging. I do know I hate losing and I am expecting 110 or more losses. I'm going to call you out for being happy in 3 years though. Your stance is absurd. If 2 years of losing and player procurement leads to a successful run from 2020-2026, how is that not worth it? You need to take a step back. Don't worry about the day to day. Track prospects. Pay attention to other aspects of the org. But yeah, if you just want to watch each game as a separate entity with no eye toward the future, you probably shouldn't follow the team this year.

QUOTE (Soha @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 12:49 AM) If Seth Beer keeps hitting .253, we might be needing a new guy to target. But yeah, we want a top 2-3 pick regardless of who is there. He has a .488 OBP and his OPS is 1.070.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Sox just dropped a fly ball. Yeah they are ready for the season. How in the world can fans fill the Cell for Opening Day if they know anything about this team? I'll be there. They finally picked a lane. This is the absolute correct course of action. I'll go my usual 10-15 times. And they have the cheapest tickets in the league.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0331-story.html This is excellent. The stuff with KW is great

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 05:01 PM) Hah, fantastic analysis! Picking in the top three would mean that a lot of things went wrong for the White Sox. I obviously don't want the prospects to come up and fail but I think you are overstating how much of an impact they will have. The Sox rotation is Q, Shields, Holland, Gonzalez, and Dylan f***ing Covey. They could have the worst team OBP in the mob fairly easily. They have some RH power, an above average bullpen, and a stud starting pitcher. How are they going to score runs? This team is terrible and will get worse as they start subtracting players. I'm not really worried about it because I'm fairly confident this is a bottom 5 team in baseball.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 04:55 PM) They compare the team against themselves (previous year) and not against their actual competition. Even comparing to last year though is a team that subtracted 11 WAR by trading the 2 best players on the team.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/847896793820135428 Maybe Monday's lineup too? Tyler Saladino is the leadoff hitter. He has a career .294 OBP (albeit very small career) and had a .315 .OBP last year. I don't mind him leading off because I obviously don't care what happens this year but it's funny to me that he's the leadoff hitter and people actually think this team is like 74-78 win caliber. That's not just fans either. Fans are optimistic in nature I think. Some media guys that cover the team feel this way. I don't see it.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) I don't think this is the case. The whole reason was to acquire prospect to really build for the future. If the players they currently have play better than expected, it helps the team in two ways and only hurts in one. It helps by 1) having players that other teams want in trades and 2) having a better base to help the prospects. It hurts only in draft position and moneys slots. Although I did say 72 which is below your 73 win failure level. I don't need Seth Beer. They need to pick top 5 though. They need the bigger bonus pool and it would be ideal to pick top 5 in a loaded draft class. Winning 65 games is better than winning 75 games. Winning 75 games is a poor way to pull off what they're trying to do. If you are sitting home for the playoffs, you might as well reap the actual rewards of rebuilding.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) Paging Y2JIMMY.... LOL I was busy. Picking 7th or 8th would be a failure. More White Sox half measures.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) So room for a possible waiver add. Sure but who are you sacrificing off the roster?

If this team wins between 73-78 games the season was a tremendous failure. The whole reason to do this is to be really terrible.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 11:49 AM) I expect better production from every infield position, catcher, and similar to last year's production from LF and CF. Maybe Avi will surprise us by having a halfway decent season. Pitching is going to be a problem and DH is a big question mark but the managing and clubhouse should be better so I'll say the Sox turn in a pretty meh season with between 75 - 79 wins. That's not taking into account any trades of regulars for prospects that aren't ready to contribute to the major league roster. They have some RH power, a solid bullpen, and 2 good starting pitchers. I have no idea how they are going to get on base consistently though. They have a bottom 5 offense and one of worst groups of starting pitchers in the AL. I just don't see it.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) Addition by subtraction. No more Ventura for one. You think managers matter a hell of a lot more than I do. They traded away their 2 best players (Roughly 11 WAR) and added nothing to replace them. 70 wins absolute best record possible for me.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Mar 31, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Probably somewhere between 75 to 79 wins. I'll say 77. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but how? I think they are a bottom 5 team in league right now and haven't subtracted more yet.

They need the prospect haul that Q will bring back to maximize the rebuild. he'll be in his early 30's by the time they are good again and will need to be paid also. Keeping Q doesn't make much sense.

Does anyone watch Scandal? It's something that I can actually watch with my wife. The first season years ago was awesome and then it got super cheesy but I kept watching just because. It's actually good again.

Everyone seems to think that the Sox would benefit from him being in the upcoming J2 class but I'm not sure it matters. If he's in the class, the Sox could offer him $8.3 million (after trading for $3.5 million in space). Some small market teams could theoretically pay him $10 million though. I'm not sure it matters but those are the facts. If he's cleared prior to June 15th, it's all about $$. It's not like the big boys are involved though. San Diego, St. Louis, and Houston will be big players in this scenario. The White Sox really can't outbid those teams though if they want the guy? I know the Padres have spent $80 million internationally this year. Would they really pump that up to $120-$130 million to sign Robert? If Reinsdorf can't win a bidding war with those teams, we are probably doomed anyway.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 30, 2017 -> 01:25 PM) I'll believe it when I see it. Same stuff was said about Melo a few years ago. Can't wait to see how many negative PER players we could get for Butler from our crack front office. Keeping him doesn't make any sense so I'm just going to hope that they actually do the right thing. Wait until about a year from now when Butler requests a trade out of here and then he really has no value at all.

Garfien/Podsednik>>>Kaplan/DeJesus. Hell yeah. Suck it Cubs............

https://theringer.com/cleveland-cavaliers-k...de-c39d8a560866 This talks about league sources saying Butler is "as good as gone" this offseason.

Jesse Sanchez tweeted that he ran the 60 in 6.2