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Does Paul Janish get any credit for the pitching development?

I believe Chuck asked a question about him being fun and entertaining etc

Mt. Carmel recruits all over the Chicagoland area from the south burbs and the city itself. Loyola gets every catholic school on the north shore. They're both powerhouses but they should be because they recruit from all over. It's why it was extra sweet when we beat Loyola at Loyola in 2021 in the semis on our way to a state title.

The trend is that it's four dudes with premium upside and one low upside college bat. And please enlighten me on which ones he didn't push for? I don't know that Hagen Smith was his preferred path. He was the scouting director but the scouting director has bosses.

I'm not talking about personnel moves. Manager from the outside, new international director and new facility in the DR plus a director of hitting. If he does those things, I'll feel much better.

I coach at Lockport. Looking forward to getting going.

This isn't true from what I understand but also, which one of these guys is unlike the others? Garrett Crochet, Colson Montgomery, Noah Schultz, Jacob Gonzalez and Hagen Smith. Jeremy Haber

I'm not sure that that is the only thing he's done right. It hasn't gone well so far. I need more time though. I need to see what moves are made on the front office side this offseason. It's a really important winter. I run the White Sox prospect blog, FutureSox. I really don't get very much access and it doesn't influence my coverage. I criticize the team all the time when I feel it's warranted.

The pitching infrastructure and development is really good and they’re building a new Dominican Academy. That’s about all I got right now though.

This thread is humorous to me. Chris Getz is in year one. I can’t argue that he’s good but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. What a massive waste of time.

The person mostly responsible for Jacob Gonzalez is no longer in the org. I’d bet on the pick having significantly more upside than that.

Reinsdorf is lazy. That doesn’t really have any bearing on what happens now though. It is what it is. Agreed Right but there’s nothing we can do about it. Hopefully he hires other guys like Brian Bannister For sure. It’s a tiny sample though. We have no idea yet.

I’m glad that there are more outside hires coming. It’s a huge positive. Chris Getz didn’t hire himself. I’d personally prefer to be optimistic about this plan instead of just bitching and moaning over things I can’t control every day. Maybe that’s just me though.

Development models are a big issue though. You can’t be super conservative with your minor league pitchers and then expect them to go 6 innings in the majors. Offense is bad though because pitchers are awesome now. Unless pitchers somehow get worse, hitters will continue to struggle.

He was drafted low because he was hurt and came back as a senior. Was like 23 already on draft day.

He’d be nuts to give a timeline. It just depends. They’ll be awful in 2025. Could they be fun in 2026? It’s possible depending on prospect performances. They could start spending in 2027. Getz would be crazy to lay out a timeline. Theo Epstein never did.

Mully and Haugh did fine. My only issue was not asking about potential changes to international scouting and offensive infrastructure

You’re right. Drew Thorpe sucks. Chris Getz got fleeced. The Sox are fucked and we should all stop paying attention. Hey now I fit right in.

I think the amateur scouting is fine. I’m expecting a new international director this offseason

I’m not losing objectivity. Cool post though.

Fair point. I just think writing off Drew Thorpe is stupid. I need to take a break from this hellscape I think.

Very overrated. He wasn’t ranked everywhere either.

I’m not deferring my opinion to anyone. He might be a #4 starter. I don’t think you understand what ceiling means though.

Nope. It’s too early to make a determination on either guy. I’ll trust Brian Bannister on Drew Thorpe rather than giving up after 41 big league innings or whatever it’s been.

I don’t think it makes sense to spend yet anyway. They should spend on stopgaps, flippable veterans and relievers to trade at the deadline. The Sox will be awful again in 2025. There’s no reason to spend a bunch of money to win 70 games when you can just win 60 games instead. They’ll be in contention for the #1 pick in 2026 draft. Should be pretty obvious now.