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Did her ever break something this significant though? Like Merkin has because he’s the voice of the club, but usually the big stuff is from national guys or complete rando’s from what I’ve seen.

I was referring to Scott Gregor & Chuck Garfein.

Why are we acquiring two more OF prospects? I can get Frazier since he’s major league ready, but Florial just creates an even glut in the minors.

Scott Gregor & Chuck Garfein?

And how often do those guys break massive news stories?

I’m with you man. Seems like a weird time & place for this to leak out if true. I’m leaning towards this being one final Hail Mary to drive up the price for the Sox & Phillies. If I know one thing about negotiations, final offers are never final until an agreement is actually signed.

If this is true, hopefully one of the national guys confirms it. I could have sworn DanClarkSports through out some garbage rumors at least year’s Winter Meetings but maybe I’m wrong about that.

You should proud that we missed out on a player that could desperately help our franchise...bravo!

I think this Encarcion tweet has to be compete “these fucks are crazy” misdirection unless like fathom pointed out somehow Abreu is on the move.

Not that it wouldn’t be a fair trade, but I would really hate giving up Cease.

I think he would have most definitely accepted it or struggled to find a halfway decent contract. I mean, how many relievers make $17M or whatever the QO is worth? And LeMahieu would have definitely accepted it and been significantly overpaid.

Where would he play?

Do you have something to support that because I don’t think that’s true? This article suggests his stuff returned to form in Low A with the Nationals: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fangraphs-top-200-prospect-list/

Agree on Moncada (he was a 70 FV guy though), but Giolito does not have the velocity that once made him a 65 FV prospect IMO. I think he’s a high variance, potential #3 type starter.

Just to make sure? Why don’t we worry about him finding success in AAA before we even consider him part of the major league mix. His K/BB ratio was 1.11 for Charlotte last year, giving him a major league rotation would be a travesty.

I’m not saying anyone should have assumed it was most definitely going to happen, but the risk of a blown out elbow is par for the course with high velocity pitchers and him needed TJS should surprise nobody.

Adams would get destroyed in the majors.

Hold up now, pitchers blow out their elbows all the time. If you thought that was unlikely to happen at some point with Kopech, then shame on you. No doubt Burger losing a year plus of development time sucks, but flukey injuries (or worse) do happen. Need to have prospect depth to overcome those type of things. Giolito being the worse starter was not according to plan, but he was always going to be a high variance guy. No one should of had any expectations for Fulmer and if you did that’s 100% on you. He was broken well before last year. As for Moncada, I just don’t agre that he’s that “far in”. Last year was his first full season and he was basically a league average despite his K issues. He has really never dealt with failure and IMO this was a much needed part of his development. I’m not going to panic unless he shows no progress with the bat next year.

Oh I definitely agree. I think it’s a unique case where the insane amount of K’s make it easy to overlook his youth, great batter’s eye, and elite physical tools. I still believe he’ll end up being a great player, but the K’s (if not addressed) will prevent him from ever reaching his inane ceiling.

I love this post.

Trust me, Moncada’s season was a bit worrisome, but he still was a league average player despite starting the season as a 22 year old. If anyone deserves more time before rushing to judgment it’s him. I saw enough flashes last year to remain optimistic for now.

I think if Moncada came out and put up a 4 win season I doubt we’re having thie conversation right now.

Bumpy start I can agree with, but “not going to plan” sounds like almost panic inducing levels of worriedness to me and it’s not even close to that point yet.

How so?

Why do you think this is true?