Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Quin @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) At least no one hit him with a car? Good god...the partisanship on this board is sickening.

Not the prettiest first two innings for Kopech. Hopefully he can rebound and put together a solid night.

I enjoyed the episode, but really thought several of the big 7 would die. Pretty lame that only Thoros bit the dust, which was fairly predictable. I guess the dragon makes up for that to some extent. And I hated how stupid it was for Jon to get stuck behind, not die from hypothermia, and to miraculously be saved by Benjen (who didn't need to die). The real issue with the episode is how ridiculous the timeline of events was. How many days would it really take for Gendry to get back to Eastwatch, for a raven to get to Dragonstone, & for Dany to get north of the wall? Seems like that would take multiple days and our little suicide squad would have been f***ed. I get the show has to take some liberties, but this seems pretty extreme IMO. I really hope the books has a different plan for getting the Night's King a dragon than this one.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 06:01 PM) Gonzalez pitched a good game for the win today. This will probably be his last start in a White Sox uniform. I thought we would get at least 2 more starts from him before the August 31 deadline. Now that Lester is on the Cubs DL , I figure Hahn will trade Gonzalez to his life long favorite team the Cubs. Older fans remember when Arnold Johnson owned the Kansas City As he traded numerous of his best players to the Yankees. It went on for years. It helped the Yankees maintain their dynasty in the 1950s and 1960s. I can't help but wonder if we're going to see the same type of situation with the Cubs and Hahn. He recently traded Quintana which should help them the next few years getting into the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gonzalez go the Cubs either. Dude just STFU and take your insane conspiracy theories elsewhere.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) People just suck. What ultimately happened at the end of that video? One of our babies was crying and I must have missed something.

Jameson Fisher has been awesome as of late. In his last 10 games, he'll slashing .333/.429/.667/1.095 with a 12% BB rate and a 17% K rate. This is great news given the upcoming OF glut in A ball next year and his age (turns 24 in December), as Fisher pretty much will need to be pushed to AA. Anyone hear how's developing the field?

QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 07:52 AM) Just curious...why is everyone so hyped on Gillaspie? Because he was a former 1st round pick & BA top 100 prospect. Unfortunately, he's done nothing this year to warrant such hype and I honestly believe Delmonico is the superior prospect at this point even if he can't stick in LF.

I don't see what Gillaspie has done to warrant a spot in our opening day lineup.

1. L. Garcia, CF 2. Moncada, 2B 3. Abreu, 1B 4. Davidson, 3B 5. Delmonico, DH 6. W. Garcia, RF 7. Anderson, SS 8. Narvaez, C 9. Cordell, LF

I'd move Hansen up to AA as well.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 18, 2017 -> 01:59 PM) With the extra year of control we got from calling him up late this year wouldn't we have him through the 2023 season? It's 6 seasons after this year. You are correct.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Even the walks have stopped. He's one for his last twenty with 10 strike outs and no walks. He's not struggling, he's drowning. Anyone still convinced he'll climb out of this is deluded. You don't have to take the exact opposite point either, but now it's time to seriously consider that Moncada is a complete and total bust. It has gotten so bad that the Buxton comparisons are starting to look generous. I hope he turns it around, but watching him play leaves almost zero room for encouragement. You are seriously a complete joke. You are getting right up there with Greg in terms of hot takes.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) Surprised nobody claimed MiGo. Was hoping he could land on a contender to get a chance at the post season. Did they pass him through while he was on the DL or just after he came off?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) If Giotlito spends September with the Sox, he would need to stay in Charlotte until almost July to get the extra year of control. That doesn't make much sense to me. I agree. Hahn clearly has his eye on being semi-competitive in 2019, which means giving Giolito a full season or more to work through things next year. Might as well call him up now if that's the case.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 12:08 PM) Great post, Lamar. We need to see more of your posts IMO. I have been intrigued by that Kemp guy. We should make sure he's the player to be named. Throw in Miguel to make sure it's Kemp. If next year is another throwaway year I wouldn't mind seeing that Kemp guy lead off. This post is just great. Sums up how greg's brain works perfectly.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 12:22 AM) LOL No, it's a request to have some semblance of competence on this team. There is no one - not one bullpen pitcher - who should be on a major league roster. Not one. Do you think a game like this and loss after loss helps development? And Petricka - good lord, he's never been any good at all. The vast majority of this roster is playing for their major league livelihood. Wins & losses at this stage will have very little impact on their development.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 12:06 AM) I'm gonna be honest- I have no idea what wRC+ is. I also don't care. You like peripherals? Try this one. 22% K rate at A in 2015. 25% at A+, AA in 2016, 28% at AAA in 2017. I can understand Blake Rutherford might need to fill in his boots a bit to reach his full power potential. I can understand that Zach Collins has been focusing on his D and his bat is still pretty advanced, stats be damned. I can be plenty patient with the young ones. But I don't see how a guy who has had serious contact issues his entire career will suddenly fix them to be a decent ball player. And Dombrowski still kept Devers and Benintendi and traded Moncada. Why would one of the game's best GMs be so certain as to which highly touted prospect to trade? See Kris Bryant's K rates at those levels (hint they're worse). As for Dombrowski, he traded Moncada over the other two because had obvious long-term holes in LF & CF while 2B was blocked for the foreseeable future. He was trading from a position of strength, which is what all good GMs do. Same reason Theo traded Jimenez for Quintana, who also happens to be one of the best GMs in baseball. And the early returns on that trade are incredibly promising.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) Bummer continues to help the tank. Sucks Burdi got hurt, would have loved to see him as closer Obviously Tommy John is never good, but if it was going to happen eventually, this was about perfect timing. I'd rather have the bullpen be the reason we lose games than the lineup or rotation.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:54 PM) For me, he passes the eye test. You can see the mountain of talent he possesses. He's only 22, so as I think you correctly assert, it's only a matter of time with Yoan. Exactly. These at-bats against LHP have been ugly, but that's not uncommon for a young player, especially now the scouting reports are out on him. Like all players, he'll have to make adjustments and I see absolutely no reason why he won't make those. People need to remember that he was completely rushed to the majors because was able to be productive despite his strikeout issues. It may take a year, it may take two, but the dude will develop into a quality big league hitter. Whether he fulfills his potential of "Robinson Cano with more speed" remains to be seen, but he's far too talented believe he won't get a helluva lot better in the coming years.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:46 PM) Then we should have looked elsewhere. I just don't know how, in the 2017 draft, we seized on this idea of low-K types, but less than a year earlier, when making the most important trade in recent history, we ignored that aspect when choosing our top prize. By this logic, I guess you wouldn't have wanted Kris Bryant a few years back as he K'd 28.6% of the time in AAA. Funny how that's gone down in the majors. Maybe because he has elite bat speed & a great batter's eye and he's been able to make the necessary adjustments. Moncada's K rate was 28.3% in AAA this year. He's got tremendous bat speed & a plus batter's eye. He's a special f***ing talent just like Bryant and your view on him is simply short-sighted & lazy.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:39 PM) Ugh. I really wanted Benintendi from the BoSox and I have never seen what makes Moncada so exciting for people. That k-rate is ugly. 28% at AAA, 37% up here? Good luck, kid, but that won't work. You've never seen what makes Moncada so exciting? Five tools with a plus batter's eye isn't exciting? wRC+ of 156 & 152 in high A & AA as a 21 year old isn't exiting? 45 stolen last year isn't exciting? I swear some of you guys have the patience of a three year old. Dude was almost universally considered a top two prospect for good reason and that's because he has the talent to be a top two or three player in baseball. Whether he gets there, who knows, but people need to stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions a month into his professional career. Most young players don't come up and dominate from the get-go. If you can't accept there is a learning curve, do yourself a favor and come back a year from now when the worst is finally behind him.

Rodon only went more than 7 innings once last year. He's now gone over 7 in three straight starts. Wasn't the prettiest outing tonight, but he's been way more efficient as of late.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:34 PM) ok...this right handed Moncada needs to go....enough already. I'd give him more than a month before writing him off from the right side. You got to give him the chance to actually make some adjustments. And as someone else mentioned, it's unlikely he's going to be any better against LHP batting lefty.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:07 PM) So which guy in the pen blows it this time. I think we're going to win this one.

Nicky is the motherf***ing GOAT!