Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 01:19 AM) I'm starting to think we see Eloy as a September call up next year. The way he is hitting is crazy. If he can come close to this level next year in AA, why not give him a few at-bats at the end of what is likely to be another bad White Sox season? What do we think the ETA on Kopech is? There's no rush, but there's a decent chance he'll be one of the five best starting pitchers in the organization come spring training next year. At a bare minimum you give Kopech a couple months in AAA to start next year. But honestly at this point, I fully expect Kopech in the rotation by the second half of 2018, which means by opening day 2019 our rotation could be pretty ready to make a run at things. Jimenez is much tougher to peg IMO. He's been absolutely awesome this year, but I typically like to see some AA success before I feel confident they're a year away or less from reaching the pros. But the elite guys do move fast and I have no reason to think a prospect with as well rounded of an offensive game as Jimenez will struggle against more advanced pitching.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 08:41 PM) You may want to smoke "another big fat bowl" or at least give me your address and when you're smoking it so I can make a phone call ?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 08:21 PM) Timmy walk Wow, only his second walk since July 1st.

Kopech is without question the best pitching prospect in baseball now. I thought he was going to tire out once he passed his previous innings high, but the kid has been insane these last few weeks.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 06:26 PM) One of these days, someone will get benched for an inexcusable base running incident I just don't get what happened. I actually thought he was injured while watching in real time. If he just pulled up because he figured he was out then he should be benched.

Wow, some seriously bad base running by our Cubans.

Why the hell did Moncada slow down there??

Random fact, but Tim Anderson has one walk since July 1st. That is beyond pitiful regardless of what's going on in his head right now.

I've enjoyed these past four wins, but a 10-9 loss would really hit the spot right about now.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 07:14 AM) There's no way you're a real person. I refuse to believe it. Yup, it's so painfully obvious he's not a real person.

This may be the most pathetic crowd I've ever seen at a Sox game.

Passan actually does his homework, which is refreshing. I tend to agree with him though. I think the Braves have a better group of pitching prospects than us, but I'd argue it's closer than most prospect ranking lists would suggest (easily the top two orgs in baseball from a pitching perspective). But I think we definitely got them on the positional side. Moncada+Jimenez > Acuna+Albies, Robert > Maitan, & Rutherford+Collins+Burger > next three Braves positional prospects.

If he cleared waivers already, I'd have him be the closer the rest of the way and see if he can actually net something decent back. Most of the quality relievers won't make it to the good teams, so it could be slim pickings for them and a rejuvenated Clippard might be of some interest.

Acquiring stars is the hardest part of a rebuild and perhaps the most vital part of it. If you can't sign/draft/develop stars, the length of the rebuild can expotentially increase. Relying solely on the draft is a dangerous game, because it's simply way too unpredictable. What Hahn has accomplished here is incredible. As of today, we have two positional guys that look like sure-fire stars in Moncada & Jimenez plus a third guy in Robert that might just join them. We have almost no long-term financial commitments and should be able to add at least one more positional star in free agency. That is an incredible foundation to build off of with even a system of average pitching talent. But we are absolutely loaded with high-end pitching. Kopech is obviously the key, but if he can develop into a legit ace, the rest of the staff should fall in place nicely with an array of TOR options. And this doesn't even factor in landing a potential star at #1 in next year's draft. Point is, blowing it up early before our core assets expired in value and landing guys like Moncada has taken away a ton of uncertainty and has potentially allowed us to complete a rebuild in record time.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Interestingly enough Stephens and Hansen also scheduled to start tonight. I am mildly surprised neither of them are getting promoted. I don't think Stephens deserves to be promoted yet. The peripherals are good not great (K rate way down) and he only has 11 AA starts to his name. If anyone deserves to be promoted it's Jordan Guerrero, who has been awesome this year and has 40+ AA starts.

I'll be there tonight!

You can argue the Sale trade feels a player light, but we arguably got back the highest ceiling positional & pitching prospects in baseball. If even one of these two works out, the trade is an anbsolute win for us because we were not going to be able to put a winner around Sale before we lost him to free agency. If both work out, wow is all I have to say. Ultimately the Sox got what they needed to make a no regrets deal and took it. The move was made 100% on merit with the intention of kicking the rebuild off right and had nothing to do with behavioral issues. The notion that the front office RF aded Sale & Eaton for such reasons and only then decided to rebuild is some the bats*** craziest nonsense I have ever heard.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 08:34 AM) Sale and Eaton started it. The sox FO viewed them as toxic and wanted them out. After trading them, it really started the rebuild. That toxicity affects business BTW. Sale had no respect for authority. The FO wanted him gone. There was no point in holding on to Q or others with such a bad team. Dude, just stop, you're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 07:27 AM) Defense matters too. He played plus defense last year, the ability is clearly there to be above average. I'm much more concerned about his plate discipline. But if he can be an above average defender and hit for power, he can still be a productive player for us. I think we all have to step back and realize this is a lost year for him. Next year will be critical though.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 11:01 PM) Definitely not. If Anderson sucks again next year then I'll jump on that bandwagon. Dude absolutely gets another year to prove himself. Leury will get his chance to play everday in the of. This. Anderson has a long way to go offensively, but giving up on him in year one of a rebuild is f***ing stupid.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:47 PM) Not a great post. The Democrats could have given us a good candidate to vote for. Look, if they strike Guam it's all over. That's a direct attack on our bases and our people. If Jong Un is dumb enough to attack Guam there's nothing we can do but execute thermonuclear war. And yes the world will never be the same. Did you vote for Hillary? If not, you indirectly voted for Trump and a guaranteed nuclear holocaust. Well done Greg...

Awesome finish!

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) I've cited Beltre in the past. Have no idea why he stayed in DSL that long. If he had any kind of power as a 3B prospect, he'd be up there. Sox have had him play some 2B too recently. Hopefully the frame fills out a bit more. I was wondering the same thing, he put up pretty good numbers in the DSL in 2016.

Ramon Beltre with a HR. He may be the best prospect in the system no one has ever heard of.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 09:47 PM) Alex Destino has one sexy OBP. 21 years old. Will probably be in Kanny with Dedelow next year. Gonna be a crowded outfield. Robert, Dedelow, & probably Gonzalez as the three main guys. Still hoping that Mercedes finds a way to get an everyday role as well.