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2024 Offseason Plan - "Try" to Compete Edition
Chicago White Sox replied to ChiSox59's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I plan to attempt this at some point today, but $78M to address all our holes seems impossible. Hahn really fucked this org so badly. -
You greatly underestimate Cease’s value.
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We should find out more at the GM Meetings this coming week, but from everything released formally by front office members and informally by media outlets like Merkin they realize competing next year will be tough but also plan to roll the dice a bit since they play in the AL Central. They’ll add some former name players like Salvy, Merifield, etc to help with the illusion that winning is possible and try to their best to avoid another 100 loss season. The real question is what do they do with Cease. He helps with the illusion of competing, but I personally think not trading would severely hurt the franchise. I know everyone is excited about Montgomery, but one prospect isn’t changing the trajectory of the franchise. We need a fuckton more talent and Dylan is the only asset we have (other than Robert) who can get you multiple prospects of potential impact.
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I could be way off base here, but it sounds like he had some real mental health problems last year and really isolated himself from the rest of the team. And top of that, he was absolutely awful when he came back from his injury. Truly sad to see such a fall from grace from a guy who should have been a long-term star on the south side.
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Mike Clevinger declines player option.
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’d expect two guys from that tier and then one true scrap-heap guy to compete against the group of in-house “options” we have. Still a lot of offensive needs to fill and money will be tight after the Salvy trade. Going to be a weird off-season. -
Mike Clevinger declines player option.
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Small market habitual losing fan base syndrome? Not sure I follow, but ultimately it doesn’t really matter. Short of Jerry dying or selling the team beforehand, Cease won’t be here come 2026. What is the point of keeping him until then when there is essentially no hope for the first of two years you have him for? -
Mike Clevinger declines player option.
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Which is why you need to trade Cease. Just a complete waste to waste him on a team with no hope. -
Mike Clevinger declines player option.
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
From my perspective, we need three starters, at least three relievers, a starting catcher, a RF, and a 2B to have any chance of competing. If they decline Tim’s option or decide to trade him (which we’ll know by Monday) then there are at least 10 holes to fill. And that doesn’t even count the bench or general pitching depth. It’s literally going to take a miracle to compete next year. -
Mike Clevinger declines player option.
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Not a a surprise, but damn does Getz have his work cut out for him to build a solid rotation. -
Per Jon Heyman
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https://x.com/VinnieDuber/status/1720202799181357348?s=20
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Shouldn’t be too surprising given how many holes we have and a likely payroll reduction to some extent. I expect a bunch of C tier free agents this off-season.
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Paul Janish Hired as Director of Player Development
Chicago White Sox replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Better than KW Jr I guess -
Can we unlock the Fire Rick Hahn thread please?
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I thought his responsibilities expanded far past just contracts?
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Does anyone know if this dude still in the org? Currently listed as “Assistant GM” alongside Josh Barfield. Wild to think Hahn’s lackey would survive the purge, but I have not been able to find any evidence to suggest he hasn’t.
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No Official plans to announce for SoxFest
Chicago White Sox replied to HeGetzUs's topic in Pale Hose Talk
100% hurts fan interest. SoxFest was the one thing that has given my older son some excitement about the team. He keeps asking if we can go this year (and last year) and I have to tell him these losers are afraid to be held accountable for their sucking and it likely isn’t happening. Sucks for them because with that carrot I could have probably created a Sox fan for life. Unfortunately these cowards don’t seem to care about fan engagement. -
No Official plans to announce for SoxFest
Chicago White Sox replied to HeGetzUs's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Have they confirmed there will be no Soxfest next year? -
2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Take the QB 1.01. Beating up a bad Raiders team doesn’t change that. -
2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Foreman is really good…just an older RB with a limited track record due to his Achilles injury. I’m guessing the Bears simply wanted to get their young backs the bulk of the playing time and I don’t believe Foreman is much of a special terms contributor. As such, he was kind of an awkward fit until the injuries arose. -
Oh no doubt about that.
