Chicago White Sox

If you need salary relief, trade Liam to the Jays for Jansen and you just cleared $10M. The Sox do not need to give him away for nothing. I can’t even imagine the contract he’d get right now if he were a free agent.

That guy literally knows nothing.

Liam has standalone value, why are we trading him for salary relief?

I feel like Hendriks won’t be here come Christmas.

Lol…that’s five contracts that would be franchise records for us.

McCann is owed $24M and will cost them $46M with luxury tax hits. You’re also giving them an elite closer on a sub market deal. Theoretically it’s very much in reason to snag a high-end prospect like Baty, but it implies that Cohen has some theoretical financial cap and/or is all in on these next couple seasons.

You better be getting Baty if you take on McCann’s salary alone. And honestly, I’d probably want a second piece too. McCann’s contract is bad, the Mets don’t have the space to roster him, and they’re paying a 90% luxury tax rate so he’s effectively costing $23M a season. I’d probably do Liam for McCann, Baty, & Peterson. The Mets are going to be hard pressed to dump James (who else has a connection to him) and Liam is a top 3 closer on a below market deal. They need to pay the f*** up if they want us to further their cause of creating a super team.

Who does it make expandable though? Escobar is now firmly on the bench, but trading Liam for him would be counter-productive. This also makes Guillorme more available, but he doesn’t really help the power situation at all. To me, you either need McNeil or a major league ready top prospect. And I struggle to think the Mets would move the former and the latter is unlikely unless you take on bad money (i.e. McCann).

If a Liam for Jansen trade is something we’re pursuing, I’d love to get Nate Pearson as a second piece. Kid has seen his prospect stock implode and probably won’t make it as a starter, but he could be a special reliever.

I believe NBB has a legit source, but I’m not buying this. I can see them being ok with youth at 2B, but I don’t believe Hahn isn’t looking for upgrades. He said there would be trades and I fully expect at least one to still happen.

Our bullpen definitely isn’t thin when you compare it to other bullpens across the league.

About Hendriks?

I think this is actually a pretty reasonable take on the Liam rumor. Perhaps there is more to the Blue Jays theory than meets the eye ?

The ZiPS projections are super low for our positional guys IMO. I think we blow them out of the water next year.

As part of hard retool it could, but clearly that’s not the direction we’re going in after signing Benintendi.

Timmy trade?

How was he effective on his rehab stint then?

Why do you think this?

Rick played hardball when attempting to deal Quintana. I actually thought he was competent at the time because of how well he maneuvered to get that deal. He’s lost all my faith since then.

So let me get this straight, because Grandal sucked prior to coming back, we have should assumed that’s the level of performance we’d get the rest of the season? Just ignore his entire history as a player and assume he’s going to be Reese McGuire levels bad with the bat. Gotcha, totally makes sense. Also, you need to stop using fWAR (or any WAR) as the end-all-be-all for evaluating catchers. I get you’re a numbers based guy, but it is nearly impossible to quantify the full value of a catcher with a single number and can be difficult at times to separate what the catcher controls vs. the pitcher. And for a backup catcher, you certainly can’t just take a partial season and increase his playing time and assume his fWAR will increase linearly. Look, you may think McGuire was a capable backup catcher for us, but I just don’t think a guy who is 50% below average offensively being serviceable unless they are an elite defender and I didn’t see that level of defense with Reese. Yes, that is mostly based on eye test and I have no idea how he is as a game caller, but most of his component stats back that up (pop time, framing, blocking). Now, if his hitting moving forward resembles how he performed with the Red Sox (even normalized for the ridiculous BABIP), I’d 100% feel differently. But he legit looked like the worst hitter in the league not named Leury Garcia while with the Sox.

I mean, it’s possible they didn’t like Reese in the clubhouse and wanted to move on from him regardless. Usually guys that jerk off in parking lots are a little on the weird side. He also had a 54 wRC+ with us which is unplayable despite his defense. Regardless, there was almost zero chance we were going to keep two backup catchers without options on the 40 man roster all off-season. One of them was likely to be traded before spring training. Not sure Grandal coming back from injury is having this butterfly effect you think it is.

Who needs analytics when you have a Jerry Narron to solve all our catching problems. Speaking of which, did you simply eliminate his position as part of the La Russa fall-out?

I generally agree with your views, but I think you’re way off-base here. We should want more guys like Grandal who are determined to play through their injuries. It’s the manager’s job to determine if a guy is healthy enough to contribute. Blame Tony or Hahn for not forcing him to the DL and/or finding alternatives to take on his role.

I won’t post the tweet to avoid giving him more attention, but that Happy Man dude claims the McCann for Leury trade fell through over “monetary reasons”.

Sounds like the McCann for Leury trade fell through ???