Chicago White Sox

We are going to need bats and won’t be able to add enough in free agency. I would 100% look to trade Fedde (and possibly with a reliever) for the best near ready OF prospect available. f***, Fedde + Kopech for Beavers and something else would be immaculate.

Fedde’s trade value rising! Would be sweet to get a legit, major league ready OF prospect for him.

Sorry, should have said cheap controllable year. But point remains the same, $7.5M is an absolute steal for what Fedde is providing right now.

Reminder that pitching is always overvalued at the trade deadline and this year will not be an exception. Now, guys who can potentially slot into a post-season rotation and provide regular season innings (say Fedde) are going to be far more valuable than your pure innings eaters (like Flexen). For low market teams that are strapped for cash and big market teams up against the luxury tax, Fedde’s reasonable and attractive option will be highly valuable. He just needs to keep pitching well to convince other clubs that this new version is the one to expect going forward and the not the guy who had to go to Korea to prove himself.

For Fedde? If he continues to pitch like this he will return a top 100 guy easily IMO.

What would your roadmap be to build a competitive roster by next year with Fedde?

Feels like some SP promotions shouldn’t be too far off. Just not sure how much they want to subject guys to Charlotte, although Nastrini & Cannon may already clue us in on that answer.

Nightengale said the Sox are likely to trade Kopech in addition to Fedde, Flexen, Clevinger, Eloy, & Pham. I seriously doubt teams will be after Crochet at the deadline given the likelihood he will wear down and/or need to be shut down. I think Kopech’s time with the org is quickly coming to a close and they probably feel he’s too much of a head case to even consider an extension.

Zero HRs is well?

They added Clevinger and Pham since then

There will certainly be money to spend. The challenge is twofold though. Are there enough quality free agents out there to sign and will we be the ones to win the sweepstakes. And I’m not talking about the Soto’s of the world, but the next couple tiers down. Last I checked, this upcoming class didn’t look great from a positional player perspective.

I think there is zero chance that Fedde is here post trade deadline. He should probably be traded for a bat given how many holes we have currently. From my perspective, your 2025 rotation should be Crochet, three kids, and some sort of cheap vet in FA. The rest of our money needs to go to the offense.

I was strictly referring to trades. I liked both the Fedde & Pham moves.

Go back and look at the trades Getz has made and I have been consistent with my takes. I didn’t like the Fletcher trade because I viewed him as a low upside tweener whereas Mena was young & athletic with the possibility of untapped potential. I wasn’t a huge fan of the Santos return, and in particular, I viewed DeLoach as a AAAA type player. I found the Thompson for Horn trade to be a bit confusing strategy wise and the fact they already cut Bailey is concerning. I did like Cease trade as soon as it was made though, so I can assure you I’m not hating out of joy here. Unfortunately, when you have the worst major league roster assembled in recent money, every little bit of talent helps. And yeah, burning an arm with real upside like Mena for what certainly looks like a 4th OF hurts. Just because we have a lot of interesting young SP prospects doesn’t change the fact we could have used Mena in a trade for something more valuable. It was a highly questionable move at the time and even moreso now. That alone doesn’t mean Getz is going to fail, but it would be nice if one of the 25+ year old OFs he acquired could fill an actual spot (even if temporarily) instead of forcing us to cut more youngsters to create spots for a guy like Rafael Ortega.

Daniel Hudson was pretty awesome in 2009. Jon Rauch also had that one minor league pitcher of the year season.

I’m sorry, but trading controllable talent always matter. And the early returns outside of the Cease trade don’t look too hot.

It could still work out great. And I’m not ready to write off DeLoach either. Just super frustrating that we acquired a pair of 25+ year old OFs and neither can help us right now despite two massive openings on the major league roster.

Zach DeLoach currently has zero HR’s at fucking Charlotte a month into the season. This is what happens when you replace the legendary Haber laptop with Gene Watson unfortunately.

To be fair, Bummer makes ~$4.5M above league average and has a $1.25M buyout, so his total cost above the minimum was $5.75M. This year alone, Lopez and Soroka make $5.3M above the minimum plus the guy the Sox replaced Bummer with (Tim Hill) makes $0.8M above the minimum. The dollars are fairly close to even overall…we just filled multiple holes with low upside players instead of holding hope on the higher upside guy. I’m not going to lose sleep over this trade (and didn’t mind taking a shot on Soroka), but it was always a long shot of actually delivering any value and that’s proven true so far.

I will applaud Getz for getting anything for Robbie Grossman. I think it’s way too early to say all the various puts and takes have been worth it. I’m not yet convinced Matthew Thompson in a relief role is not a better prospect than this dude, who we could have just kept and not tied up a 40 man spot by trading for the late great Bailey Horn. I guess we shall wait and find out.

Can’t stop this hot streak that Getz is on!

MeTriCs!?!

Bump. At this point, Rick Hahn has been a more productive GM for the White Sox over the past 12 months than Chris Getz. Hell, I bet Haber’s laptop with a little ChatGPT could have built a better team than the shitshow Getz has put together. It’s almost impossible to fathom, but there is a legit argument a first year GM should be one and done with him. He’s simply been that bad on so many levels so far into his tenure. I do look forward to hearing his Stan’s give him a complete free pass for everything that has gone wrong this season though.

Because Getz whiffed significantly on the two 25+ year old AAAA OFs he acquired.

Brugler had a 4th round grade on Taylor for what it’s worth