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Why is Kimbrel considered “junk” though? As bad as he was with us, he finished the year with 2.2 fWAR which would tie for 5th overall for relievers. I don’t think GMs are going to ignore his total body of work and focus only on his time with the White Sox. Don’t get me wrong, his cold stretch being at the end of the season will impact his value, but it doesn’t means he’s finished and a smart GM will try to rationalize why his season suddenly flipped upside down when he got traded. I don’t think we will get much for him, but if the Sox do pick up his option then I’m confident we’ll get something fungible for him (likely a lesser reliever) and that’s better than eating his $2M option.

What do you mean five months?

I can’t see Rodon passing on the QO if he gets extended one.

All good brother…I know you’re well intentioned, but saying shit like that will enrage the board. Let’s just move on, no need to beat yourself up over it. And I apologize for being overly mean about it.

You literally just said we suck despite winning 90+ games and having one of the best cores in baseball…don’t play victim here bro. If the mods here weren’t cool as fuck, you’d almost certainly be suspended for blatant trolling behavior. We all have bad days, but none of us purposely say stupid shit just to get a rise out of the board to feel better about ourselves.

I am completely embarrassed that I fought for you to be unbanned. Like good god man, go the fuck away and live your miserable life elsewhere. Getting our asses handed to us by the Astros sucked balls, but thank god you weren’t here to make it 10x worse with you’re pessimistic insanity.

We literally underperformed our Pythagorean by six or seven games. You are truly an abomination of a poster.

One of the worst posts in the history of the site in all honesty

Frazier would be a nice little piece, but I feel we a left-handed thumper in the middle of the lineup. I’m definitely not against Frazier though, especially if we go in a different direction for RF.

If you add Suzuki for RF, then you got to add a LH bat for 2B. How much does take it take to land Ketel Marte? Does Vaughn, Crochet, & Rodriguez get it done? Is that something we’d even consider doing? Regardless, imagine the fucking lineup! Anderson, SS Robert, CF Marte, 2B# Abreu, 1B Jimenez, LF Grandal, C# Moncada, 3B# Suzuki, RF Sheets, DH* Good fucking god! If only dreams could come true!

Why should it be competitive vs the dumpster fire it was this year?

Can’t have a Hahn press conference without Hahn ?

These reasons all suck and we aren’t facing AL Central teams in the playoffs. We need to improve the roster for post-season purposes, which means improved defense where possible and better offensive balance. Soler helps in neither regard.

So your argument is the Sox should have acquired a bunch of garbage outfielders at the trade deadline because they happened to get hot in the playoffs. And the only one who wasn’t garbage (Duvall) has a profile that doesn’t typically do well against elite pitching in the playoffs and sure enough did not do well. But hey, if you’ve got a way to see into the future and tell which bad players will randomly start hitting in October then please share with our front office so they proactively add these “impact” players on the cheap.

Are HRs the only basis for offensive production? Soler has barely been an above league average hitter over his last 800 plate appearances. I’m confident that Vaughn would blow that out of the water while also providing slightly better defense. Not sure why we’re wasting an ounce of time discussing Soler other than certain posters overreacting to a hot playoff stretch or over-valuing someone’s country of origin.

Why is Brian Goodwin the baseline here? Soler’s defense offsets a massive chunk of the value he provides offensively. And if we’re looking to rock the weakest defensive outfield then just go with Vaughn in RF. None of this makes any sense.

Why does it matter how he compares to our other defensively challenged OFs? Soler is absolutely terrible with the glove is the point and acquiring him to put Vaughn on the bench would have been nonsensical at the time. It’s absolutely comical that people all overreacting to a dozen or so playoff games and ignoring the larger body of performance during the regular season. Nothing about Soler made a like of sense for us on July 31st.

We offered Joc more than the Cubs in the offseason and he turned it down. He then went on to put up 0.1 fWAR prior to being acquired by the Braves? You really think he was a guy we should have acquired to start over Vaughn, who posted a 134 wRC+ in July. Rosario had put up 0.3 fWAR at the trade deadline and isn’t really a RF. Soler had put up -1.1 fWAR at the trade deadline and is a absolutely horrific defensive outfielder. Neither guy was the answer to what we were looking for at the deadline no matter how hot they got during the postseason. Maybe you could of made a case for Duvall as a depth piece simply because he can actually play some defense, but he’s a low BA / OBP right handed bat with poor plate discipline who would have been more of what we already have and not a profile that typically does well in the post-season. It’s very clear that you’re using hindsight to suggest we should have made all these moves, when in reality a mix of Vaughn, Sheets, & Engel was probably more attractive than all of those options with the possible exception of Duvall. If the Sox were going to add a RF at the deadline, it should have been an impactful one like Marte or Bryant and not the scrap heap guys the Braves picked up since they needed to replace their entire outfield.

The victim was a 23 year old girl and it appears she was trapped in her seat and burned alive as a result. Absolutely horrific way to go out. Raiders have now released Ruggs, which pretty much confirms this case is cut & dry.

The last thing we needed was a butcher in RF. Soler wasn’t the answer to our RF problem at the deadline.

Yeah, that would be interesting.

Maybe I’m missing something, but that chart is pretty poor evidence of needing to shift more. Like I bet the r2 is like 0.20 or less. Not suggesting there isn’t some correlation there, but no idea what Pnoles is trying to accomplish with that chart.

You demand but fail to operate under the reality of an operating budget.

Feels like Colorado would have to overpay to land an impact free agent, so gotta like our chances if they’re one of the more interested parties.