Chicago White Sox

No one in the world thought Marcus Semien was a potential superstar at the time of that trade. Not one person and I say that as one of his biggest fans on this board. As for Tatis, he got a $700k signing bonus and was generally viewed in the 25th to 30th range in that signing class. If other teams thought he had superstar upside, he would have gotten a lot more money. Point is, there will always be uncertainty with prospects and it sounds like your strategy is trade none of them to prevent the low chance of accidentally trading a future star.

We literally almost got him for Fulmer and an interesting relief prospect last year.

How many potential future stars do you think are sitting in our system right now that aren’t named Robert, Madrigal, or Vaughn? You are going to an extreme because of one in thousand outcomes. Yes, we were burned twice, but that can happen to anyone. For fucks sakes, the Dodgers gave up Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Are they also a shit run organization?

Scouts have differing opinions all the time. The Dodgers wanted Fulmer a year ago when most other organizations probably didn’t value him very highly. Now he’s out of options and probably close to worthless. At the end of the day, we shouldn’t be holding prospects simply because we’re afraid of being wrong. Have faith in your self scouting and try to maximize value.

Never said one year rents are the only option, but what do you think a guy like Blake Rutherford is going to get you right now? Also, I strongly disagree with the idea of all one year rentals being bad. There is nothing wrong with trading fringe prospects for guys that can help you now, even if said player is only control for one more season.

I’d hold onto Adolfo & Basabe. I do like Walker, but I think I’d explore his trade value while there is still some hope he can play CF. That being said, I wouldn’t sell him for pennies on the dollar.

I mean, if your fear is we don’t know which guy(s) will be good and who will be bad, there’s no guarantee we ever give the right guy an opportunity. So instead of operating in fear, self scout as best you can and extract value where possible.

Shut up.

Sanchez is not ideal for a roster that will have Moncada, Anderson, & Madrigal locking down the infield for the vast majority of the year. Get a guy that actually provide some utility in other areas, because a late inning defensive replacement is not what we need.

So your plan is to hold onto all of them in hopes that one of them exceeds expectations rather use some of them you don’t really like to fill holes on the major league roster or acquire minor league depth?

No thanks.

Is he a scout?

Post it!!

KW used to be fantastic at self-scouting, but we’ve definitely struggled quite a bit under Hahn.

Adolfo has star potential and is worth holding onto IMO even if the odds are low he reaches his ceiling. But someone like Rutherford should be moved if he still has any value left. He’s one bad season away from being worthless.

This is just cherry-picking one bad deal. How many prospects actually amount to anything? I’m still not sure what you’re suggesting with our OF glut. Another bad season and some of those guys will have zero trade value.

Yup, just got to hope they can close this out! With Grandal & Wheeler in place, we have much more flexibility and can be patient for the right opportunities to complete the rest of the roster.

God Wheeler + Grandal = the AL Central is totally fucked

Why can’t Sheets play? He was one of the best hitters in the Souther League after a rough first month.

Can you post?

I’m not saying they can only get worse. What I’m getting at is at some point prospects do age out and/or require 40 man roster spots, so you can’t hold onto them indefinitely. Keep the ones that you think will develop into quality players and trade the others before teams realize their flaws. Strong self-scouting is essential to optimizing player value.

Exactly, I’d be looking to move a couple of these guys to fill holes or add depth in other areas.

It does if you’re unable to give them opportunities and they start aging out / slow down. What’s your plan for Basabe, Gonzalez, Adolfo, Rutherford, & Walker?

Holding onto all your prospects until they reach the point of no value is far more stupid.

Here’s my take. The Sox are sitting around 5/$110M. That’s currently the highest offer. Wheeler’s camp is making one last Hail Mary to see if anyone will do something crazy and go six. If not, he’s a member of the White Sox in the next 24 hours.