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QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 04:34 PM) Yeah! Something like either of those would work. Or something that gives less weight to a recently graduated prospect, so he still factors into the ranking but not as heavily as players in the minors. I just don't like the binary nature of today you are a "prospect" but after your next at bat tomorrow you are not. In the end, it's all just meaningless labels I guess. Then teams like Astros (Bregman, Correa, McCullers) and Yankees (Judge, Sanchez, Severino) would have us beat. Let's not pretend that the Sox farm system actually produce a lot of quality starters in recent years.

It could really go either way depending on who you ask. Subjectively, the Braves may have a slight edge due to most of their top guys being 20 years or younger and still have a lot of growth left. I think it's hard not to admire what they have done with their players from a developmental stand point. While we have acquired 70% of our top prospects, while the Braves have homegrown most of theirs, taking a bunch of high schoolers in early rounds of Rule 4, making splash on 16/17 year olds in the LatAM market, send them to rookie ball for a year, Low A ball for another year, then skipping High A and going straight to Double A. Yet their prospects haven't looked outmatched but rather gets better at each level. It's hard not to envy how stupid good their minor league development and scouting is.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) Tell him to stay away from Ian Hamilton. LOL

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) I don't think Stephens deserves to be promoted yet. The peripherals are good not great (K rate way down) and he only has 11 AA starts to his name. If anyone deserves to be promoted it's Jordan Guerrero, who has been awesome this year and has 40+ AA starts. I dont disagree that Guerrero is ready for AAA, in the perfect world we cut bait with Volstad and promote both. But for Stephens, there isn't much left to do in AA. He was a 4 year starter at Rice (lost some time due to injury) and was viewed as a quick riser because he was more polished than raw. He's not someone you have to pitch 150 innings at a level before promoting him. Speaking of peripherals he may never have great peripherals in the upper minors because he's a BOR type pitcher, not going to miss a ton of bats.

Interestingly enough Stephens and Hansen also scheduled to start tonight. I am mildly surprised neither of them are getting promoted.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) I've cited Beltre in the past. Have no idea why he stayed in DSL that long. If he had any kind of power as a 3B prospect, he'd be up there. Sox have had him play some 2B too recently. Hopefully the frame fills out a bit more. I've also followed ex-DSL guys like Beltre, Feliz, and Perez for a few years now. All good bats but not haven't developed any power yet. With Beltre, if he has a good glove, he could be a Carlos Sanchez type player.

Outside of the top prospects, it's good to see Bernardo Flores settling down after a rough start at High A. With a strong finish to the year, maybe he joins Hansen and Dunning to start the year at AA next season? Trey M is quietly creeping back up to .240. Still young enough to be relevant.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Moncada is putting up quality at bats and is trending in the right direction. He is also blazing fast on the basepaths. I'd like to see them turn him loose and start racking up stolen bases. Prepare to be disappointed. SB attempts around the league are at an all time low, pitchers and catchers have better arm than ever. Homeruns are at an all time high and that's the main focus of many players, even from the traditional non-power positions. Sox as a team also do not run a lot. We have guys like Anderson, Leury, Engel, and even Saladino who stole more 40 bags in a minor league season, but really were not asked to run a lot.

That Charlotte lineup would have been a fun one in 2014. Asche, Liriano, Gillaspie, and Peterson.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Corey's Brother. My favorite so far.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) I'm not sure Jimenez has a potential 70 hit tool. Power? Absolutely, but most scouts seem to think Jimenez will be an above average hitter in the 55/60 grade realm. 70 hit and 70 power = unreal I could see Jimenez being a similar player to Giancarlo Stanton at ceiling, which is a very good player. That's why I said potential, his hit tool has definitely improved since signing. If you look at his preseason scouting, some sites actually pegged him as 60 hit tool after hitting .330 last year. Someone posted on this forum after the trade that Jimenez has 70 hit tool potential (I did not bother checking the source), I don't think that's entirely unrealistic either.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Kyle Seager won the weekend Who's that?

A potential 70/70 hit and power tool, there is a lot to be excited about Jimenez. I don't want to jinx it but I think he may be our safest prospect in the system.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) No doubt. At worst, top 3. Top 5 could be Acuna, Vlad Jr., Eloy, Torres, and Rosario (or Robles if Rosario loses eligibility) in any order.

This is an exciting topic, I will go with the most likely lineup based on how I think how the 'spects are going to pan out. 2B - Moncada LF - Robert SS - Machado RF - Jimenez DH - Abreu/Gillaspie 3B - Burger 1B - Adolfo/Gillaspie C - Zavala CF - Rutherford/FA/Draft pick Bench - Delmonico, Cordell, Mendick, Collins SP - Kopech SP - Lopez SP - Hansen SP - Giolitto SP - Dunning/Guerrero CL - Burdi SU - Cease SU - Adams SU - Bummer SU - Fulmer LR - Clarkin LR - Stephens

QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 09:29 PM) I have no idea what the lineup will look like in 3+ years, but we have a boatload of talent to potentially pencil in there. We don't know who is going to make it as a prospect, and who is going to flame out, but there are so many talented players we have now it's just awesome to ponder. Look at all this talent, and that doesn't even include a top 3 pick in the 2018 draft and another high pick in the 2019 draft or any potential free agents the Sox could sign. For 2020 the Sox only have $4 million in guaranteed salary to Tim Anderson, so they would have tons of $ available to sign any roster holes they may have. CF - Robert R LF - Rutherford L 2B - Moncada S RF - Jimenez R 3B - Burger R 1B - Sheets L DH - Adolfo R C - Collins L SS - Anderson R Bench C - Narvaez L C - Smith R 1B - Gillaspie S UTI - L. Garcia S UTI - Saladino R UTI - Sanchez S UTI - Davidson R OF - Delmonico L OF - Tilson L OF - Basabe S OF - Cordell R SP - Kopech R SP - Rodon L SP - Lopez R SP - Hansen R SP - Giolito R BP - Jones R BP - Adams R BP - Burdi R BP - Cease R BP - Dunning R BP - Fulmer R BP - Clarkin L BP - Guerrero L BP - Bummer L BP - Stephens BP - Puckett The future looks extremely promising. The Tilson love continues! For a guy who has had 2 AB's in in the past calendar year, I can't believe people are still penciling in a spot for him in 2020. Amazing.

I thought the Russians were behind this.

The 50 million dollar kid is back.

Ramon Beltre finally got promoted from DSL to state side after 4 years in that league. Takes a lot of preseverance to repeat the same league so many times when many other prospects breeze through the system. Probably never amass to anything special, but rooting for the guy.

Greg must be jumping for joy right now.

I would think Kopech has one, at max, two starts left. 50-60 inning increase is a lot to handle for a 21 year old arm. Only reason I would give him 2 more starts and not 1 is he seems to be clicking recently, perhaps due to some minor adjustments, and you would want him to get more reps in with those adjustments.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 07:39 PM) I like Hansen allot, don't get me wrong. I just need to see more of it. The stuff is there, he just needs to consistently keep up his control. He should be pushing top 100 listed by end of season. Same could be said about any prospects in lower minors. I guess what I'm trying to say is the fact that he hasn't pitched in AA shouldn't be held against him, we know that he has the stuff to excel in upper minors, and now it seems the control is getting there as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 06:18 PM) Scouts are waiting to see what Hansen can do against better competition in the higher minors. Dominating a ball is not that impressive for a college prospect from a major program. I'll buy in more fully once he's doing this to AA hitters. I am not sure if I agree with that thinking. Usually you would wait till you till you see a pitcher facing better competition if they have questionable or even average stuff, i.e. guys like Danish or even Stephens. We know that Hansen has TOR stuff, his weakness was his control which we know has improved by leaps and bounds since playing in the Sox system. The fact that he's still only pitching in A ball (though he's already been promoted once this year) is because Sox wants to take it slow with him, reps are more important for him at this point than getting him challenged. I'm fairly bullish on Hansen at this point.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 05:48 PM) You missed the most common one out there, Leury Tilson. Can find one in nearly every US phonebook, just like there are 32 different towns and cities named Clinton in America. I got Leury Tilson, or as he likes to be called, Larry Tilson, penciled in as the 4th OF and emergency bullpen arm.

CF Adam Tilson 2B Yoan Tilson 1B Jose Tilson RF Avi Tilson 3B Matt Tilson LF Ryan Tilson DH Nicky Tilson C Omar Tilson SS Tim Tilson All the Tilsons.