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Jerry Owens is on a bit of a post All Star Game tear. Including tonight (so far) he is hitting .267 post mid-Season with a .341OBP. At a full season clip for MLB rankings that would put him at #16 for CF for average and #12 for OBP.

Here's a list of the most recent #1 overall draft picks. 1994 Paul Wilson New York Mets Pitcher (OUT OF BASEBALL) 1995 Darin Erstad Anaheim Angels Outfielder (2-Time All Star) 1996 Kris Benson Pittsburgh Pirates Pitcher (0-Time All Star) 1997 Matt Anderson Detroit Tigers Pitcher (OUT OF BASEBALL) 1998 Pat Burrell Philadelphia Phillies Third baseman (0-Time All Star) 1999 Josh Hamilton Tampa Bay Devil Rays Outfielder (0-Time All Star) 2000 Adrián González Florida Marlins First baseman (0-Time All Star) 2001 Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins Catcher (1-Time All Star) 2002 Bryan Bullington Pittsburgh Pirates Pitcher (Minimal, Poor Big League Experience) 2003 Delmon Young Tampa Bay Devil Rays Outfielder (0-Time All Star, Good Prospect/Player_ 2004 Matt Bush San Diego Padres Shortstop (Injured, No big League experience) 2005 Justin Upton Arizona Diamondbacks Shortstop (Hitting .239, too early to tell) 2006 Luke Hochevar Kansas City Royals Pitcher (Minimal Big League Experience) 2007 David Price Tampa Bay Devil Rays Pitcher (No big league experience) so of the last 13, #1 overall draft picks, we have a total of 3 All Star Games, 2 of which came from Erstad. I'm too tired and lazy to do the work, but I'd guess that there is a better performance by those picked at #2 or later than at #1.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) I love it when people who have no clue what they're talking about try to make a point... yeah, me too...

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) Let's see... David Price will enter next season as a top five pitching prospect without even having thrown a pitch in professional baseball. Evan Longoria just had a .900+ OPS year in AA/AAA and is considered a top prospect in the game. Jeff Niemann, after multiple injuries, looks to have put himself back on the radar screen with a decent season for Durham. At the very worst it's looking like he can be a good back-of-the-rotation pitcher. Delmon Young just turned 22 and is already hitting at a league average (ish) level. BJ Upton is going to finish the year hitting .300 with over 50 extra basehits by the end of the year. Way to bring up the worst example possible. I'll also note that four of the above five guys would be top prospects/young players in the Sox organization right now. I love it when people who have no clue what they're talking about try to make a point... most of the garbage you pointed out above is for guys who weren't #1 picks overall. So your post is pretty worthless. Longoria was #3, Niemann was #4, Upton was #2. Anyone need a reminder about Josh Hamilton??? 1st round picks are important. Whether you pick #1, #4 or $6 isn't as big of a deal as you think it is. Especially since the Sox would never consider drafting a Boras represented player, as I'm sure most of the Top Picks will be. Devil Rays First-Round No. 1 Draft Picks Year Player Pick No. 2007 David Price, LHP 1 2006 Evan Longoria, 3B 3 2005 Wade Townsend, rhp 8 2004 Jeffrey Niemann, rhp 4 2003 Delmon Young, of 1 2002 B.J. Upton, ss 2 2001 Dewon Brazelton, rhp 3 2000 Rocco D Baldelli, cf 6 1999 Josh Hamilton, of 1 1998 NONE -- 1997 Jason Standridge, lhp 31 1996 Paul Wilder, of 29

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 02:46 PM) Do you even realize how quickly college players who are drafted in the first few picks are making the majors these days? Guys like Braun, Lincecum, Zimmerman, Gordon, Troy T. Morrow, Verlander, etc. all made the majors within 2 years or so. point taken, however wouldn't the Sox be more successful in 08 and beyond if guys like Garland, Contreras, Floyd and Danks make some quality starts here at the end of the season. And guys like Richar, Owens and Fields continue to raise their averages? Doesn't success from current big-league prospects mean more than taking a dive to get an unknown, unreliable quantity at #1?? that being said, everyone around here was popping a stiffy at Brian Anderson's 2nd half last year. Why wouldn't they be sporting the same wood if Owens, or Fields had a similar 2nd half this year?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 15, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) Here you go: Wins don't do anything for the franchise at the moment. Losses could. Understand? yeah i mean look at the D-Rays. All of those #1 picks have done such a great job for them.

im not sure i'd go that far. so you pull off Cintron's RBI and offset the defense with Crede, do we score more than 1 run?

now this is a thread which should be shut down.

this thread absolutely disgusts me. anyone here who is honestly trying to associate Osama with the Democratic Party should be ashamed of themselves. We have a common enemy and yet we use him or what he says to divide ourselves against each other. you're falling right into his trap. This is exactly what he is trying to accomplish.

am I the only one here not completely sold on him??? 4.80 ERA and a .297 BAA. To his credit, Lefties are only hitting .221 however. In comparison, Thornton (who I really dont like either) has a 4.89 ERA and a .278 BAA. Lefties are hitting .300 against him.

If this helps your thought process... The Sox current roster has players drafted in the following rounds 1st- Danks, Erstad, Fields, Floyd, Garland, Konerko, MacDougal, Thornton 2nd- Lucy, Owens 3rd- Pierzynski, Podsednik 4th- Myers 5th- Crede, Gonzalez, Jenks, Vazquez 9th- Hall 11th- Bukvich 13th- Thome 17th- Dye 20th- Logan 37th- Cintron 38th- Buehrle None- Contreras, Ozuna, Richar, Terrero, Uribe, Wassermann 1st Round Picks Draft Selection 1st- Erstad 4th- Floyd 9th- Danks 10th- Garland 13th- Konerko 18th- Fields 22nd- Thornton 25th - MacDougal Personally if the Sox get the 1st pick or the 5th pick, it doesnt really matter.

but why keep picking on Darin Erstad like he's been the reason the Sox have been a failure this year??? IMO the guy has a legitimate spot on this team as a 4th OF/backup 1B next year, a Mackowiak type position. Hitting .265-.270 in that role while being solid defensively, is not a bad choice.

QUOTE(CarlosMartinez @ Sep 1, 2007 -> 04:25 AM) I swear, if I have to watch Erstad play another game I am going to kill myself. I love how he get's his AB's every other game rather than bringing up our so called "future" and letting them figure things out. Hell, they could put Harold Baines out there and get better production! Instead, Darin Erstad is the future, let's ride that pony all the way to the World Series. It's painful to watch him and McCrazy get the pt they do. Sorry, too many Miller Lites, tired of watching this hores*** team take the field each night and piss it away in one way or another. Thank God football is here to ease the pain. g-damn Erstad and his 2nd highest batting average on the team!!!

Dodgers claimed RHP Esteban Loaiza off waivers from the Athletics. Loaiza ended up going 12-9 with a 4.62 ERA in 26 starts after signing a three-year, $21.375 million contract with Oakland. The Dodgers will now take on just over $8.4 million of that, and they'll inherit his $7.5 million option or $375,000 buyout for 2009. Loaiza's arrival will push Eric Stults back to the bullpen, giving the Dodgers a rotation of Brad Penny, Derek Lowe, Chad Billingsley, Loaiza and David Wells. Randy Wolf will be a reliever if he returns next month. Aug. 29 - 2:03 pm et

wow just realized that this was just my 1,000th post. Yeah to me.

http://www.local6.com/news/14009909/detail.html

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Aug 30, 2007 -> 03:55 PM) Keith Law has a top-20 preview on ESPN Insider. I won't post the whole thing, but here were his top 5: 1) OF Isaac Galloway (Los Osos HS, CA) 2) OF Aaron Hicks (Wilson HS, CA) (think he's also a pitcher) 3) Justin Smoak, 1B, University of South Carolina 4) Brian Matusz, SP, University of San Diego 5) Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Vanderbilt He seems to like the high schoolers, even though from what I've read/heard Alvarez is the current favorite for #1. Also, he mentions Jordan Danks at #20. I'm somewhat worried that we're going to take him, as we have drafted him before and seem to like him. If he has a big year there's nothing wrong with that necessarily, but thus far he's projected as more of a mid-1st pick that we might take because we're confident he'd sign. Also, he's another article (blatantly stolen from an old thread in FutureSox): Old thread with MLB.com artile Keep in mind that this is going to change DRASTICALLY between now and then, some guys are going to move up/down based on performance, and probably at least one guy that wasn't mentioned will shoot up the draft boards or come out of nowhere to be a high pick (especially for the high schoolers). Edit- My bad, link no good, changed it to the Soxtalk one (about 3 posts down). picking by position only, I'd take the 1B. By the time he would be projected to be big-league ready, Paulie could be moved to DH. We've had/have plenty of OF prospects in the system. Same with Pitchers. Assuming Fields is the 3B from 2009-on, then I would think 1B/2B/SS/C would be position needs.

QUOTE(JERMAINEDYE4MVP @ Aug 30, 2007 -> 06:24 PM) LOL WHAT DID I SAY? THE WHITE SOX ARE ONE OF THE WORST TEAM IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS THEY SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO ME AND MADE THE FIRESALE.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 06:05 PM) Link Neat. That's why i don't handle money anymore. hope you don't touch bathroom door knobs then. another sick thought. You go to a game a US Cellular and use the urinal stalls. What are your shoelaces sitting in as you are letting nature take its course?

www.wheresgeorge.com not sure if anyone here uses it other than me. You can enter in the serial # of the money you currently have and watch as the money moves across the country. pretty neat.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 06:56 PM) The cost is prohibitive. You have to pay Vazquez $11 million a year. You will have to pay a Rowand or a Hunter $12million to $18 million a year. You could have Young making close to minimum in CF and $25 million a year to play with. or do the same with Jerry Owens.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 06:32 PM) Well, he'll be 43 and in shouting distance of A-Rod's career HR record as well as Henderson's SB record and Cy Young's Wins record so I suppose it's understandable. Don't forget Cal Ripken's Ironman Streak.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 06:17 PM) Chris Young would have been safe. so when I go to Cooperstown, will there be a section roped off where they are going to put Chris Young's plaque in 20 years?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 12:43 AM) Duque is 9-4 with a 3.07' Vizcaino is 8-2 with a 3.66 Chris Young is 23 years old. He will eventually get on base more often than Jerry Owens, and he can drive in a run once in a while. He's far and away a better player than Owens. fine, then the article and discussion should be why the Duque/Vizcaino portion of the deal was bad. Not Chris Young.

yeah i don't get it. people around here seem to have a big stiffy for Chris Young. Don't quite understand why. He nad Juan Uribe seem to be having a contest on who can be a worse hitter.